Clicky

mashall or fender, good choice for amps?


Trevdog2
Registered User
Joined: 07/15/04
Posts: 2
Trevdog2
Registered User
Joined: 07/15/04
Posts: 2
07/15/2004 7:37 pm
Well ive reasently i have been searching for a good amp but there are so many to choose from im tryin to keep my price range down to about 400 but is it worth it to go higher. ive been looking at the fender deluxe 90 seems pretty good but ive also been looking at marshall and it seems that they are a little bit expensive is it worth the money.....

well if you have any suggestions tell even if its not fender or marshall.

thanks
keep it real
cause if your not..... THEN your keepin it fake
# 1
Dr_simon
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 07/06/02
Posts: 5,021
Dr_simon
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 07/06/02
Posts: 5,021
07/15/2004 8:09 pm
What do you want to do with it ?

Bedroom guitar (low wattage, sounds nice at low volume) ?

Small gigs (need big amp as guitar may not go through PA) ?

big gigs (anything you like however probably best to to go too big as if you crank it too hard on stage you can't here your self think) ?

recording (versatile, has line out, not too big) ?

I have just got a Marshall micro stack MG15II (Head and 2 cabs each with a 10" speaker). It cost me about 300 bucks and it is great. The emulated line out is giving me problems at the moment however that is not a show stopper as it sounds great.
My instructors page and www.studiotrax.net for all things recording.
my toons Brought to you by Dr BadGAS
# 2
Trevdog2
Registered User
Joined: 07/15/04
Posts: 2
Trevdog2
Registered User
Joined: 07/15/04
Posts: 2
07/15/2004 11:55 pm
Well i would like to do prolly about small gigs and so ive been looking at about 90 to 120 watt.

im looking for a nice clean sound so it doesnt sound like have distortion on at high volume

but i also like like a good jimi hendrix distortions and i like to have the foot switches

What do you guys suggest would be good for my needs........
keep it real
cause if your not..... THEN your keepin it fake
# 3
Lordathestrings
Gear Guru
Joined: 01/18/01
Posts: 6,242
Lordathestrings
Gear Guru
Joined: 01/18/01
Posts: 6,242
07/16/2004 4:27 am
If you're not in a hurry, and you don't insist on getting something new, I think an old Ampeg VT-40 (60 Watt, 4x10" combo) or a V2 (60 Watt head) with a decent cab would suit you to a T.

Don't get hung up on the power ratings. I have a 1977 VT-40 that I rebuilt as a 1x15" combo because I bought it as a flood-damaged salvage job. 60 Watts into an efficient speaker system can melt your face! I also have a 1976 VT-22 (120 Watt, 2x12" combo) that I can't crank into the sweet spot unless I'm outdoors, and wearing earplugs.

I find my VT-40 (V2) is particularly usable because it has a Master Volume control. This feature has a bad reputation because Fender and Marshall tried to use it, and screwed up their signature tone in the process. Fear not - Ampeg got it right. I can crank the preamp to get lotsa crunch, while rolling back the Master to reduce the sound level to something that will rock the joint without blowing out the windows. For clean, I roll back the preamp level and increase the Master.

It takes a while to figure out how to get the best combination of settings, but the tone controls are the most flexible setup I've ever experienced. You can definitely get Fender sounds, Marshall sounds, and with a stomp-box for some extra boost, you can cop even the most outrageous Mesa Boogie type uber-gain.

You may hear some uninformed gossip about Ampeg using strange tubes, but that's all it is - uninformed gossip. Ampeg output stages are the most versatile, easy-to-please designs out there. They will accept a wide range of tube types without modification, and some simple mods allow an even greater variety of choices. All of the preamp tubes ever used in any model since the late 60's are readily available as new production or NOS.

Keep an eye on eBay. VT-40's and V2's pop up quite often. Prices are starting to rise as word gets around, but if you resist the temptation to empty your wallet in a mad bidding war, you can probably get a killer amp for what you have budgeted.
Lordathestrings
Guitar Tricks Moderator

www.GuitarTricks.com - Home of Online Guitar Lessons
# 4
MasterChief
Registered User
Joined: 04/19/04
Posts: 44
MasterChief
Registered User
Joined: 04/19/04
Posts: 44
07/16/2004 8:57 pm
If you're going for the clean sound, go with fender. From my experiences marshalls aren't too great for that department, really nice for distortion though.
# 5
gusjDT
Registered User
Joined: 04/22/04
Posts: 57
gusjDT
Registered User
Joined: 04/22/04
Posts: 57
07/18/2004 8:08 pm
Eh.. Peavey??? I prefer peavey more than Fender/Marshall amps. But it's just my opinion.. I don't want to start a flame-fest. Try the Peavey Bandit 112. Check it out on ebay.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38076&item=3735956442&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


That's the one, but don't bid on it since it has 1 min left since i posted.
Go Petrucci!! Ra-ra Vai!! Die 182!! ****ers...
# 6
MasterChief
Registered User
Joined: 04/19/04
Posts: 44
MasterChief
Registered User
Joined: 04/19/04
Posts: 44
07/19/2004 12:06 am
I have to admit the Peavey series of amps are actually really nice. Just alot of them look kinda like toy radios :P
# 7
gusjDT
Registered User
Joined: 04/22/04
Posts: 57
gusjDT
Registered User
Joined: 04/22/04
Posts: 57
07/19/2004 1:50 am
lol, well you can say I prefer Toy Radios with awesome dist. tones and nice clean tones, than a "vintage-style/50s-style" (Marshall) amp that is a bit more expensive. :D
Go Petrucci!! Ra-ra Vai!! Die 182!! ****ers...
# 8
Polera
Guitar Hurricane
Joined: 01/12/02
Posts: 917
Polera
Guitar Hurricane
Joined: 01/12/02
Posts: 917
07/20/2004 5:08 am
Fender is nice as a clean amp. Marshall is better for distortion. Bonus is a Marshall from the '80's and earlier.
WWSD? What would stevie do?
# 9
IW-BloodKnight
Registered User
Joined: 07/19/04
Posts: 1
IW-BloodKnight
Registered User
Joined: 07/19/04
Posts: 1
07/21/2004 6:47 am
my friend has a 20 inch peavy it is the bomb i want to get it it cost him 180 and it might be used but its good and its better than my 8in dean markley with the peavy u have to use earplugs standin 10ft away with it at full volume so go with peavy brand
# 10
pinkfloydms
Registered User
Joined: 07/22/04
Posts: 5
pinkfloydms
Registered User
Joined: 07/22/04
Posts: 5
07/23/2004 6:35 am
I am also bias to Peavey. Although mine isn't the best is is versitile, I have a Peavey Classic 30 it gets way lounder than you need for the house and sounds great.
# 11
PRSplaya
Full Access
Joined: 09/19/02
Posts: 3,941
PRSplaya
Full Access
Joined: 09/19/02
Posts: 3,941
07/23/2004 4:27 pm
Peavey Classic 50 all the way.....a little more than your $400 budget, but well worth it. This is the most versatile amp I've ever played. It can go from crystal clean to slightly overdriven to 80's rock to chugachug metal. And with 50 tube watts going into 2x12" speaker, this thing is rediculously loud :eek: but also sounds very good at bedroom volums.
[FONT=Palatino Linotype]Tonja Renee's personal instructor[/FONT]

>HERE'S WHERE I AM NOW<
# 12

Please register with a free account to post on the forum.