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multi effect pedals
If multi effect pedals have all that stuff on them, why do people buy single pedals. I know $ is an issue but some are cheap. And what all do multi effect pedal boards do?
# 1
It is easy to set them up an take 'em down at the end of the night.
Also you can switch multiple pedals on and off by changing patches (with just one stomp of the foot).
They are also a lot cheaper and in the case of things like the GNX3 or 4 can do lots more additional things like record stuff and act as a mic preamp.
Also you can switch multiple pedals on and off by changing patches (with just one stomp of the foot).
They are also a lot cheaper and in the case of things like the GNX3 or 4 can do lots more additional things like record stuff and act as a mic preamp.
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# 2
If your band is synced up to midi you can have the sequencer change your patches for you automatically. It's also handy recording with em for the same reason.
# 3
I see things like this (I love analogies)... Buying a multi-effects unit instead of stomp boxes is like buying a Leatherman (tm) instead of individual tools.
You see, the Leatherman can do everything -- it can open bottles, cut stuff, screw and unscrew, snip wires, act like pliers, etc., and it's cheap. However, having a seperate tool for each job is sometimes better, because individual tools are more suited for their individual functions -- it's easier to snip wires with a wire cutter than to try to squeeze the Leatherman into a tight spot so the wire gets way down in the pliers where the cutter is. Most people can get by with just a Leatherman, but most professionals use individual tools... I'm hope you see where I'm going with this.
Did that rather dumb analogy help?
You see, the Leatherman can do everything -- it can open bottles, cut stuff, screw and unscrew, snip wires, act like pliers, etc., and it's cheap. However, having a seperate tool for each job is sometimes better, because individual tools are more suited for their individual functions -- it's easier to snip wires with a wire cutter than to try to squeeze the Leatherman into a tight spot so the wire gets way down in the pliers where the cutter is. Most people can get by with just a Leatherman, but most professionals use individual tools... I'm hope you see where I'm going with this.
Did that rather dumb analogy help?
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# 4
Multi effects pedals to me alway's sounded cheap, because they are. They can be fun, but I've never heard one that I would use on stage.
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# 5
Check out Line 6 kit or Digitech GNX series, they both sound great !
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# 6
# 7
1) No multi-effect unit has EVERYTHING on !
2) Both multi-effect units and separate pedals are used by Pros and home users ... Pros and old players plays higher quality and more expensive gear, and beginners usualy get cheaper stuff to start with.
i.e. As some multi-effect units (cough-ZOOM-cough) su*ks , also there are tons of individual pedals that are pure crap.
3) Multi-effect units aren't always cheaper than separate pedals .
4) The reason that most of them are cheaper or come in more economic packages is not necessarily because of less sonic quality , but it's also due to less packaging (do you realy think you need separate steel chasis for 30+ pedals ?) , and the fact that digital technology is cheaper & more efficient for a given job.
5) Separate pedals are easier to set up for the desired tone because there are less parameters to tweak , while some multi-effect units requires a nuclear physics Phd to program .
6) Multi-effect units have the advantage of changing more effects by pressing on one pedal , including the parameters that must be changed by hand in separate pedals.
That's it , couldn't think of more !
2) Both multi-effect units and separate pedals are used by Pros and home users ... Pros and old players plays higher quality and more expensive gear, and beginners usualy get cheaper stuff to start with.
i.e. As some multi-effect units (cough-ZOOM-cough) su*ks , also there are tons of individual pedals that are pure crap.
3) Multi-effect units aren't always cheaper than separate pedals .
4) The reason that most of them are cheaper or come in more economic packages is not necessarily because of less sonic quality , but it's also due to less packaging (do you realy think you need separate steel chasis for 30+ pedals ?) , and the fact that digital technology is cheaper & more efficient for a given job.
5) Separate pedals are easier to set up for the desired tone because there are less parameters to tweak , while some multi-effect units requires a nuclear physics Phd to program .
6) Multi-effect units have the advantage of changing more effects by pressing on one pedal , including the parameters that must be changed by hand in separate pedals.
That's it , couldn't think of more !
# 8
A few huge biggies for me are:
1) no more 9 volt batteries or huge honkin AC adapters
2) Being able to program changes into midi & have your computer make the desired patch changes.
3) A send/receive plug so you can use a cabinetulator on all your patches.
4) just in my experience, the solo pedals sound noisy compared to the multieffects pedal. Probably cause if you use 6 of them, you've got all those extra cables to go through.
1) no more 9 volt batteries or huge honkin AC adapters
2) Being able to program changes into midi & have your computer make the desired patch changes.
3) A send/receive plug so you can use a cabinetulator on all your patches.
4) just in my experience, the solo pedals sound noisy compared to the multieffects pedal. Probably cause if you use 6 of them, you've got all those extra cables to go through.
# 9
I have Zoom505II and I've been happy with it. Lots of variety with effects, and more patches than I could ever need - 6*6=36.
Some years ago I used a Boss DS-1 distortion, which was my brother's, and it is THE CRAP!
Some years ago I used a Boss DS-1 distortion, which was my brother's, and it is THE CRAP!
# 10
Originally Posted by: Grassroot Some years ago I used a Boss DS-1 distortion, which was my brother's, and it is THE CRAP!
Is that good or bad ?
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# 11
Originally Posted by: Dr_simonIs that good or bad ?
I mean it's bad. The pedal was pure crap
# 12
Despite being built like tanks some Boss pedals are better than others !
I had a run in with a Boss "Amp factory" (GP-20) some years a go and I'm only just beginning to forgive them !
I also think that like everything else it is important it get the right tool for the job. Example, you are not going to be impressed with the results from a blues driver or a tube screamer if you want a flat out death metal sound.
I had a run in with a Boss "Amp factory" (GP-20) some years a go and I'm only just beginning to forgive them !
I also think that like everything else it is important it get the right tool for the job. Example, you are not going to be impressed with the results from a blues driver or a tube screamer if you want a flat out death metal sound.
My instructors page and www.studiotrax.net for all things recording.
my toons Brought to you by Dr BadGAS
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# 13
Originally Posted by: Dr_simon
I also think that like everything else it is important it get the right tool for the job. Example, you are not going to be impressed with the results from a blues driver or a tube screamer if you want a flat out death metal sound.
Yeah, but that's somewhat obvious. Although not all beginners necessarily come to think of it. I didn't when I was starting. I didn't even know pedals could have any difference. But then when I played with the Boss DS-1, I didn't know it sounded like crap, so it didn't really matter. I realized how awful it was when I tested it some time ago.
# 14
