Originally Posted by: kingdavidI don't know exactly what your education/achievements blah blah mean to you, but I'm getting the feeling that you're taking this to mean that a PhD ain't much, which is not what I'm saying.
Be that as it may, we're talkin about intelligence here, people's intelligence to be specific, and when we get into the ways in which people display their intelligences, we're basically into behaviour science, and behaviour has a lot more to do with it than just intellience.

If you'd like to compare the dropout rates from different levels of an education system as a measure of how intellectually challenging a level of education is, here in Kenya, as a percantage, the drop out rate from primary(grade for you) school is higher than that from University. There's questions of poverty and all that, but primary school isn't more expensive than university, so I don't know.

And consider a famous dude like Einstein. I'm told he was working in a Library( and he did not have a PhD) when he came up with the theory of relativity. I'm also told that he'd variously described as slow and unteachable( which was why he was working at the Library, instead of, for instance, teaching). But look at what he did. I'm sure relativity is still studied and used in some form even at PhD level, but the dude who came up with it didn't even have that degree to begin with.

That's an example of why I say your level of education (Einstein was somewhere post high school, but not vety far post high school) may not have anything to do with how intelligent you are(Special relativity).

And as for your having finished both a Bsc and a PhD making you better qualified to judge what it takes to judge both, and both requiring a different set of intellectual tools, I have been thro' nursery, primary high school and university. And altho' all these education levels require different sets of inttelectual tools, I've talked to former teachers from all these levels,and all of them give a similar verdict regarding my intelligence.

Coz intelligence is there through out, whether you're trying to figure out what 6 times 7 is (around grade 2 0r 3 ), or figuring out ,for example, what your doctoral thesis was about.

And when you tell me there's a reason why PhD's have a different name from Bsc's, you're just being plain patronising, I'm sorry to say.

Having established that degrees are not the only indicator intelligence oh about 50 posts ago... your point is ?

As far as being patronizing... well yes. If you think that BSc and PhDs are the same then I suggest you have another look !

They are DIFFERENT like apples and telephones !!

Would you like me to post the criteria that makes them different ?