Some look back to the 60's and 70's as the golden age of rock, at times I do to, having lived through it all though I can look back, and when I think hard about all the crap there was then I can assure you all there was just as much crap then as now. The talented, the innovators, the great songwriters and riffmeisters will always be remembered and emulated in later years, the crap will be forgotten. In 20 years nobody will remember Britney or Ricky Martin. David Cassidy, The Partridge Family, who he? Who they? When you talk about bands now relying on shock value, do you think Kiss and Alice Cooper or The Sex Pistols relied on their musicianship to climb to the top, I don't think so, Marilyn Manson is not doing anything new, my bet is that in 10years time if it is'nt already so, he'll be playing golf, he'll have a wife and 2.4 children, a dog and a conventional house, just as soon as he's made enough money to retire.