shredding?


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04/24/2004 6:37 am
as the title hints... what IS shredding? i was never clear on that...
please dont laugh at me :o
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04/24/2004 7:07 am
Well there's probably a lot of definitions for it. But most of the time it means playing scales and sweeps to metal rock as fast as you can with no thought to how it sounds musically.
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04/24/2004 5:38 pm
well yes, there are many definitions what it is. i don't think it is just playing the scales and sweeps as fast as 'you' can, cause this may be only 100 bpm at sixteenth notes. i think is starts somewhere at a certain speed. for example at 150 bpm (sixteenth notes) this would be 10 notes per second. well thats what i would say.
others told me its "being able to play everything you like without technical limitations"... when you know all the techniques and can concentrate on what you play.
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04/25/2004 2:59 am
Nah, it's a style. Shred. Shred music, shredding, shredder. You want to find out what shredding is, listen to shred music. An example is that there one guy there eh. Dem der uh, dat guy der .. no doubt da name slipped from me eh!

Oh YAaaa...
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04/25/2004 7:37 am
michael angelo?
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04/25/2004 12:55 pm
One prime example, Petz!
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04/28/2004 11:05 am
I would say that its any kind of soloing that is played pretty fast. This guy was playing blues rock stuff with some pretty fast solos and my friend said that he didnt think it was shredding.
I dont really think there is a true definition to what shredding is !
By virtue of their electrical properties, tubes generate a special waveform when they're saturated, which is why tube engineering has tremendous tonal advantages over solid state or DSP solutions, particularly for crunch and lead sounds. Tubes enter the saturation zone gradually or softly, which lends tube-driven tone its trademark yet totally unique character.
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04/30/2004 1:56 am
Plain & Simple : Shredding = playing fast tunes

It doesn't matter if it's a scale , arpeggio , tapping , soulfull , soulless , or whatever ... The real question is how fast is fast enough ?
There isn't a particular answer anyway , since speed is something relative ... 100mph is too fast on the highway , too slow for an F1 racer.
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04/30/2004 5:43 am
i personally think the limits of speed have been reached. anything that goes any faster than the fastest shredders today wont sound like anything anymore - even if its played accurate and clean. try it yourself - take some midi-proggy, hammer in a riff and turn up the speed - from a certein point on it just sounds like a mess.
The only person i know that has ever made something halfway decent with speed was Conlon Nancarrow with his Studies for PlayerPiano.

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04/30/2004 12:34 pm
Actually , I think that most of today's unkown super-shredders already su*k !
Shredding was cool in days of malmsteen,vai,gilbert and other 80's fellas ... Fast licks lasted just for a few seconds to enhance the melody, or to prove the technical ability of the guitarist , which is also cool IMHO.
Now what's the point of listening to senseless licks of 16th notes played over 300bpm for a straight 3 or 4 minutes (unless you plan to use it as an exercise) ?!
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04/30/2004 1:40 pm
Originally Posted by: SLY
Now what's the point of listening to senseless licks of 16th notes played over 300bpm for a straight 3 or 4 minutes (unless you plan to use it as an exercise) ?!


to scare the living crap out of guitar noobs and make them wanna practice like 500 hours per day to be that fast. and then they come to forums like this one and start asking "what scale do i use over this and that" *LOL*

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05/01/2004 5:41 pm
Yeah, LOL !

Some people get scared from competition , and give up thinking that they could never get that fast , although they might be naturaly gifted.


How do you change this "Registered User" thing below the nickname ? I used to be a "Grizzled Veteran" , now I'm just a regular registered user! :(
Is it a moderator exclusive thing or what ?!
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05/01/2004 10:48 pm
Originally Posted by: SLYYeah, LOL !

Some people get scared from competition , and give up thinking that they could never get that fast , although they might be naturaly gifted.


How do you change this "Registered User" thing below the nickname ? I used to be a "Grizzled Veteran" , now I'm just a regular registered user! :(
Is it a moderator exclusive thing or what ?!


Yeah, i remember it said "Grizzled veteran" for you before. I want to be something good too. Being just a "registered user" sucks :D
By virtue of their electrical properties, tubes generate a special waveform when they're saturated, which is why tube engineering has tremendous tonal advantages over solid state or DSP solutions, particularly for crunch and lead sounds. Tubes enter the saturation zone gradually or softly, which lends tube-driven tone its trademark yet totally unique character.
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05/01/2004 11:57 pm
It's moderator exclusive option then !! :mad:

You should be a senior member too ... Now we're equated with newbies :eek: , we've gotta take some action , and fast ! ;)
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09/27/2006 7:43 pm
shredding has a lot of thought involved with how it sounds musically (in response to digit's reply). but it is mostly scales and modes, and you do play them as fast as you can. but you do pay attention to how it sounds musically.
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09/28/2006 6:32 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shred_guitar
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09/29/2006 5:22 pm
Shredding: Music in which the primary focus is high technical proficiency.
I am Comfortably Numb... :D

Oh yeah...STICK IT TO THE MAN!
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