The fool...God isn't a doormat,but it isn't our job to get him 'of the hook' when things turn to sh*t.He dosn't need our help OR our belief...if god is god,then he will exist and go about his will whether or not we have faith.Also,in ALL versions and translations of the bible ive read it says evil,not 'trials and tests'...it clearly says EVIL...if you can direct me to a translation where 'trials and tests' are substituted for evil,please inform me.Why is god responsible?We are his creation...why wouldn't he be?If I rolled a car down a hill and it killed some kids on the way down,I would be held responsible...what If I knew which kids it would hit and planned it...I would definitley be held responsible.Check bible-truths again and more in depth to find why we are held accountable...I forget,but that dude explains it.

As for evolution,we havn't been on this earth nearly long enough to evolve to our current state.Lets assume our 'root' mammal evolved from bacteria or smaller mammal 30 million years ago(pending a long re-proccess from the extinction of dinosuars 65 million years ago).remnants of our progressing states of proccess should/would be scatterd under bedrock and sediment...why arn't our primitive states forensics existint?The popular medium for our evolution(monkeys,chimps and gorillas)are still existant with no change in structure from the earliest fossils to now.There is especially no time for our different races to take form.Evolution is a theory of a long proccess based on a young earth(and young universe at that).There has been NO proof of anything evolving from a former state of being over time...adapting yes,but its base remains the same.A certain bacteria reproducing while increasing tolerence to antibiotics over time isn't evolution...it simply adapts to conditions which are expected from over exposer.Insects adapt to change in climate,location e.c.t as well,but they dont make any leaps and bounds in structure.

Also,what the actual length of time 7 days of creating is for god is debatable,since our 'day' was incredibly longer during the formation and cooling of the earth.Also
Eternity,forever and ever,and everlasting are mis-translated from aonian(greek) or 'eon' in the king james bible...an age with a beginning and an end.

Just a theory I had...The bible speaks of giants roaming the land before god flooded the earth...could this be reffering to dinosaurs?I'm not sure,but I think its an interesting thought.

I dont believe without proving(with reasonable doubt)and I dont attempt to prove or uncover proof without reason to believe.I certainly don't believe in god to explain what can't be explained by science.Also Jesus was a real person(even common history shows us that)and while some speculate the real events through his life were different from what the scriptures say,he is among the only men ever to really claim they were God,live by it and die by it for the sake to bear the sins of men...of course that dosn't mean jump from the roof blindley or anything,but its ultimitley unique and unrivaled by any mere martyr,philisophical prophet or unseen spirit.

As for the beginning subject...satanists believe in self worship/empowerment.They dont pray to the 'devil' and from all that ive read,have no real stance on life after death.A pretty lame 'religion' like all the social crutches people use to stand on.

[Edited by chucklivesoninmyheart on 01-28-2004 at 10:27 PM]