Does anyone know how to play Neo Classical/Melodic Death Metal.


Darren Liaho
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12/18/2003 1:35 pm
Hey everyone!

Eh, I was wondering if any of you dudes and dudests could help me!! Does anyone know what kinda of scale or anything that'll get me playing like Children of Bodom, In Flames, Dimmu Borgir etec.

Thanks!!

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12/18/2003 6:55 pm
Natural, harmonic, and melodic minor scales primarily. Although you'll also hear a little less common ones, hungarian minor, double harmonic minor, etc in some settings.
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12/19/2003 2:17 am
the diminished stuff comes in handy

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12/19/2003 2:18 am
can anyone explain what a natural scale is
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12/19/2003 2:42 am
I'm assuming it's just a simple natural minor scale.
With intervals of W H W W H W W

So for A (for simplicity) would be A B C D E F G and end on A

Lots of the time you would play a Harmonic Minor (sharp the 7th) or Melodic Minor (sharp the 6th and 7th) ascending the scale, then the natural minor descending the scale.

Now I could be totally wrong, I'm only learning theory and sucheries, so this is what I've gathered from it, any more tips would be helpful to me aswell as Wizard from others *hint* *hint*
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12/19/2003 5:10 am
Melodic Death Metal!?!? -Lol-....isn't that what they call an oxymoron.
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12/19/2003 10:09 pm
It is also known was Scandanavian Metal.... In Flames... Dimmu Bprgir... at some points Opeth. Stuff like that.
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12/20/2003 7:23 am
geeehehehe an oxymoron, hehe your awesome (sighs at your intelligent geeky stupidity)

melodic metal is all harmonizing so always go with phrygian over lydian and such good grooves like that, if your going neo-classical, its not primitive to know how to sweep (i dont and i do just fine) just know that when your going into those "exotic" scales your going to have totally new scale fragments on your finger tips and they are used in an incredibly different way then the other scales. harmonic minor fragments should get you to a nice start. i saw Children of Bodom on their american tour on december 3rd amazing show, pity they only played 6 songs, dimmu borgir can suck my cock(my opinion)
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12/21/2003 1:20 am
geeehehehe an oxymoron, hehe your awesome (sighs at your intelligent geeky stupidity)

first of all why would u describe someones comment as intelligent and stupid, that doesn't make any sense

second in what way was the comment stupid and geeky

third death metal sucks (my opinion)
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12/27/2003 2:27 pm
I find that a melodic minor has a very cool classical sound, but I dunno wether it would sound as good in a metal context.

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12/28/2003 11:49 pm
No melodic death metal isn't an oxymoron. Just listen to it soemtime. Yeah a lot of it is hard and powerful and often it will go into incredible melodies. Listen to Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Hecate Enthroned, Opeth, Cradle, Nevermore, Children of Bodom, and lots of other bands. THese guys know what they're doing when it comes to melody. Very much classically influenced...and I don't know how much more melodic you can get thsan that...


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12/29/2003 5:38 am
Children of the Bodom's vocalist kills my ears...so does arch enemy but their guitarist (Michael and Chris Ammot) are the only reason i keep on listening
learn melodic minor and phyrigian scales to get that exotic scale or even some asian scales..
just mess around with a bunch of different scales..sooner or later you will find the right ones
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01/08/2004 3:44 pm
Make a difference between Death Metal and Black Metal. Melodic Death Metal bands:
At The Gates
Casketgarden
Dark Trinquility
In Flames
etc.

Brutal (Tehnical) Death Metal bands:
Cryptopsy
Krisiun
Deeds Of Flesh
Nile
Cannibal Corpse
Monstruosity
Broken Hope
etc.

Black Metal:
Mayhem
Darkthrone
Immortal
Burzum
etc.

New Wave of European Melodic Metal:
Children Of Bodom
Emperor
Dimmu Borgir
Cradle Of Filth
Nightwish
Blind Guardian
Sonata Artica
Stratovarius
etc
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01/08/2004 7:22 pm
I don't agree. I am not saying that Dimmu Borgir or Cradle of Filth are ****ty bands (although I really don't like them), I am just saying that Black Metal IS about true, necro and grim; it IS about ****ty production; it IS about satanism and paganism...

If a band doesn't sound like Black Metal it ISN'T Black Metal!!! Remember that!

P.S. Grave robbery and church arson is connected to inner Circle (i.e. Mayhem, Burzum...). It is not connected with other Black Metal Bands!

P.P.S. I am new to this forum, and I chcked out your exercises. They are great! Keep up the good work!

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01/09/2004 11:06 am
There should be room for every band! But commertial bands are NOT Black Metal bands! Old Dimmu Borgir stuff is great (For All Tid, Devil's Path, Enthrone.., Stormblast...)!!!

Limbonic Art, for example, uses a lot of symphonic elements, and still they are Black Metal, so...

Anyway, this is totaly off the topic, and I am here to make friends, not enemies :) , so nevermind...
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01/09/2004 1:58 pm
Damn right man!! It doesn't matter what kind of style it is as long as it influences us to keep on shredding f*** outta our guitars!! Metal will never die!!

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01/10/2004 2:33 am
Originally posted by Andrew Sa
I find that a melodic minor has a very cool classical sound, but I dunno wether it would sound as good in a metal context.

Throw on som distortion, and whip it up in a true metal fashion...... if you like it keep it... if you dont throw it out
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