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Originally posted by Slow Diver

And about all the discussion about image: Ok its the 21st century already, music and vision are going to be fused more and more together. NO WAY! And if you said that you are doing music as for blind people then why don't you just strum your acoustic guitar so that you can make music for the blind people and the people without electricity?

Why don't you read my message more clearly before you bash the idea, without any thought on your part? Seriously, that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard you post here, yet.

The idea of "Would a blind person like it?" comes in mind that image means nothing to them, for they have no idea what image would be. If you can turn someone onto your music without using the whole "I'm a punk" or "I'm an ass" or "I'm so cool" attitude, using pure musical ability, then you've accomplished something. If you need to use a gimmick, or an attitude, or an image, to get people to like you, then guess what you are: An ACTOR, and not a MUSICian.

~Incidents

What I didn't like about your idea is is that you are(at least I thought so) excluding a whole dimension of live performance -- the visual one.
About the punk attitude, hairstyles, clothing and stuff I also agree it is lacking idea.
But when you go to a more serious level, when everything has its specific meaning and is a part of one whole experience, then I think things are different. That's my view on the topic. You like to be concentrated only on your music, thats fine. My ideas and feelings are a bit different.
I was a bit rude, I admit. I'm somewhat frustrated these days, I will be going to study in Germany and right now I'm setting up the whole thing around my visa and trip and I guess I lose control occasionally.

To get onto a less touchy subject, I think to be in bands like slipknot and Staind, you need two things, a recording of pigs being slaughtered, and a face (no blank heads allowed in our crappy bands).

Originally posted by Slow Diver
What I didn't like about your idea is is that you are(at least I thought so) excluding a whole dimension of live performance -- the visual one.
About the punk attitude, hairstyles, clothing and stuff I also agree it is lacking idea.
But when you go to a more serious level, when everything has its specific meaning and is a part of one whole experience, then I think things are different. That's my view on the topic. You like to be concentrated only on your music, thats fine. My ideas and feelings are a bit different.
I was a bit rude, I admit. I'm somewhat frustrated these days, I will be going to study in Germany and right now I'm setting up the whole thing around my visa and trip and I guess I lose control occasionally.

nah, don't worry about it; difference in opinion, thats fine;

I'm glad you got more specific to what your opinion is, because now that you fully explained it, i'd have to agree somewhat; I enjoy it when Phish's Trey Anastasio and Mike Gordon jump on the trampolines while playing, it's very entertaining; and bands like String Cheese Incident use alot of High-budget things for their New Years shows. The shows themselves are true experiences, etc, and they are really neat. What I'm against, as you are too, is the whole fake gimmick. The whole "I'm a punk, don't mess with me" crap that seems to go on all the time nowadays, is so incredibly cheesy.

My band has psychedelic lights flashing around when we play, during gigs; This is visual, but as far as us moving around and grabbing the crowd's attention? nadda. There's no need for that.

I'll tell ya, I'm from a time when fishnets were for men, and if you didn't wear more makeup than your girlfriend, you just weren't cool....
I'm also from a time where you had to woodshed for at least 6 hours a day just to be able to keep up with Joe Hairband for club bookings...
I'm also from a time where if you didn't have a wall of at least 4 full stacks of some color other than black tolex, you weren't cool... ( I know everyone has heard my story on the Soldano fake stacks and using a combo amp running through a rack system off of the stage )...

Nowadays, people just don't care. They go on stage with whatever they were wearing to work that day. (Note to fat guys that like the wifebeater... DON'T)
Everyone nowadays sound like everyone else, except Metallica... They just sound like **** now.
Nowadays no one takes pride in their playing... Most of these guys sound like they just bought their first guitar last week...

I think I saw a t-shirt the other day that 'splains it all..
it consisted of 3 chords I believe they were open G,A, and D. The caption under it said... Now go start a band....

That's about what they do these days.

Originally posted by hairbndrckr
I'll tell ya, I'm from a time when fishnets were for men, and if you didn't wear more makeup than your girlfriend, you just weren't cool....
I'm also from a time where you had to woodshed for at least 6 hours a day just to be able to keep up with Joe Hairband for club bookings...
I'm also from a time where if you didn't have a wall of at least 4 full stacks of some color other than black tolex, you weren't cool... ( I know everyone has heard my story on the Soldano fake stacks and using a combo amp running through a rack system off of the stage )...

Nowadays, people just don't care. They go on stage with whatever they were wearing to work that day. (Note to fat guys that like the wifebeater... DON'T)
Everyone nowadays sound like everyone else, except Metallica... They just sound like **** now.
Nowadays no one takes pride in their playing... Most of these guys sound like they just bought their first guitar last week...

I think I saw a t-shirt the other day that 'splains it all..
it consisted of 3 chords I believe they were open G,A, and D. The caption under it said... Now go start a band....

That's about what they do these days.

Thanx fellow shredder i needed some help from the open chord guys.Man i miss those days,thats why i even picked up a guitar in 1984 was because of EVH/maiden/scorpions etc....thats when guitar playing was exciting and inovative while following music theory.Todays stuff is a sad joke.
But i guess im just an ol fart who is set in his ways=)

I have said this before and I will say it again, today is the best time for making innovative music, technology is developing with tremendous speed and you can do with sound everything you wish for basically not so big investment. Some people just can get past the 80's and keep whining about todays music and the past days and blah blah...In fact I would have liked the 90s to have continued for another 30 years, I am a big fan of Seatle and the alternative scene, but you know, life is changing, and you have to be able to evolve, kind of. Just by saying that everything around is crap you confirm that you have not made any effort to find anything that is worth sticking to. And I am convinced there are plenty.
I am more and more convinced that people who think in this way have the problem with themselves, not with music. You have to be more positive. For example I have favorites from every decade. Of course there are many things that I detest but the whole point is that you have to be more open minded.
I am not ranting or bashing against any particular persons. Individual taste is always respected. I am rather putting a comment for this general attitude I see in some people on this board and in some of my friends actually.

It has been documented that trends follow 20 year waves. Most definitely.

You couldn't meet a girl in the 90s who didn't own a pair of bellbottoms. That's just the way fashion works. Recycling every 20 years. I remember watching "Karate Kid" and seeing this sweater that Daniel was wearing, you know the knit sweaters with like the vinyl plastic over the shoulders and elbows, and I remembered seeing the exact same thing at an Abercrombie a few days earlier. Funny to me.

okay, I believe shred has it's place, it all god a bit shred centric back at the arse end of the 80's, but then it went too far the other way, people actively avoiding solos because apparently 'do nothing for the song' there has to be a balance, I wouldnt think a groovy blues ridden bendy solo would fit into a 240bpm death metal song, it's all about what fits the music, as long as the guitar can be played fast, there will be fast players.
And although slipknot seem like a gimmicky band, both guitarists are VERY good, listen to stone sour for jim's playing, and mick did a session with a british guitar mag, he had samples of his stuff on the cover CD and it was at a very high standard, plus he will be playing lead guitar on the forthcoming death tribute album.
I get sick of people bashing slipknot, surely what many of you are arguing here applies, they obviously have the chops, but dont feel the need to fill every song with them? I personally like slipknot a great deal, there is an extremely high level of musicianship in the band, and I dont think 10 million people can be wrong!!

just throwing my opinions in!

oh and my setup, I play extreme metal a la shadows fall, lamb of god, I use a BC rich gunslinger with duncan distortion pickup in the bridge, through a tubescreamer, into a Roland cube30 mic'ed up through the PA, it's great for everything, rhythm, lead and bluesy quiet parts! I
also have a PRS singlecut which I use when I'm playing at home, or recording!

I agree, Tool's music is far from easy. Their drumming alone is unique and the odd time sigs are amazing.

The only Tool song that I can think of that contains a resemblence to a solo is "Schism" It's more of a bridge than a solo though.

Cool, just understand the difference between a subjective assessment of a band's sound, and calling other members names.

We all have opinions about various bands - sometimes strong opinions. There are times we have to respectfully agree to disagree.

I run a simple setup - just my axe and my amp. I find that my Ampeg VT-40, and whatever gutiar I'm in the mood for, will get me the sound I want. Mind you, I play mostly rhythm. And I use the controls on the guitar a lot. :)

We all have our opinions.......lol!:D

~Incidents