Yeah once you said that I figured out what you were saying. The bulk of the going back and forth for a few pages was about me saying I had no use for them now since today it's a dominant 7th chord. Then you said I shouldn't dump it until I understand them, and griphon I believe was telling me he doesn't agree with me. So I kept trying to explain where I was coming from. Until finally we agreed that I have no use for them and then the debate stopped.

To me music is pretty much universal and the french and everyone else didn't have different chords.