14 modes? check it out

Dewd- what do you want man?? I didn't say I disagree with you on anything. You need to chill man, we don't hand out Nobel Prizes here. A part of me says just forget it, but I'll try one more time to hopefully get you to see what I am saying.

Take a C major scale. What is the fourth degree or IV of that scale?? F. With me so far? Now what is the 4th interval above F in the C major scale? F, G, A, [u]B[/u], So a fourth above F is B. Okay. What is the name of the interval from F to B. Well a perfect 4th is 2 1/2 steps, and a perfect 5th is 3 1/2 steps. F to B is [u]3 steps[/u], so which is that? A augmented fourth, #4, or TRI-TONE. Right? Now in the C major scale, what is the given name for the fourth degree (F)(IV)? Well it's sub-dominant (sub-tonic if you want to call it that). But anyways a sub-dominant chord is not a dominant chord, nor is it a leading tone chord. Now as you can see the tri-tone exists within the dominant chord, the leading tone chord, and the sub-dominant chord. What was so complicated about that??

If you don't get it, I don't care anymore. Sorry but this is just senseless and pointless. You have your way and I have mine, we'll leave it at that.

Fine. This logic is the most preposterous I've heard yet.
Unbelievable. You are not good enough to rewrite 400 years of theory or practice. I am absolutely astounded!!!
A moderator that thinks for a moment, in this particular role, is GOD, is absolutely disgusting. Unreal. Unbelievable. The arrogance is unforgiveable. I frankly, don't care, if you like it or not.
To lie is, wrong. Even if you don't understand. Get a grip, and listen. There are many before you, that should be and might be royally insulted. Unbelievable!!! You absolutely ignore whatever is being said, from any other honest person on or at this site. You're right, and everyone else is wrong. I'm lost for words. Just wrong info. Unbelievable!!! There are reputable sites, free, that prove this ridiculous logic makes absolutely no sense. (most .org, working must be impossible or a crime.) I don't get it. I guess I'm a gonner. Read a newspaper. Writing is certainly not an issue, in your view.

[Edited by griphon2 on 08-07-2003 at 02:04 AM]

WARNING!! Theory Guru present!

Touches Griphon on the shoulder. "sizzle" :D Then goes and reads a newspaper.

Azrael, not hardly.

Been a few days and I'm glad this discussion about tri-tones has past, at least I hope. Just seems to bring about a heated argument which never gets solved. I forgot to write this earlier. As a moderator, Griphon please refrain from the offensive posts. You can have an opinion and say what you have to say without being impertinent. If you see this as guitartricks, as you say, then you are urged to respect the views and ideas of others. Even if they do not concur with your view on the subject. Your tricks and views are not the only ones to be accepted here. If you see something that is wrong you are allowed to confute what was written, but with respect. No more digressing to pull attention from the public to your side, no more delegating yourself as a barrister of higher music theory hierarchy, and plain and simple no more disdainful posts to another member of this forum. As a co-moderator (not GOD) of the music theory forum, you have been warned!

This is the first, reasonably well-reasoned and decently written, malarky. Fine.
I have been trying to disavow from this site. I would like everything to be erased. Bannish me. Don't threaten me. Please make it happen. Not one shread or your statement is even near, the truth. But, fine. There are far more reasoned, resonating and reliable sites, available, to reasonably discuss the topic of theory, especially for reasonably studied and accomplished guitarists and writers.
I need the auto-fill space.

Hi! It's me noticingthemistake. :)

[Edited by noticingthemistake on 08-13-2003 at 12:07 AM]

You are not being threatened, you are being warned. You are being warned because your posts have been questioned by other hosts of this site. Why? Because you can become alittle too offensive when you have a disagreement with others, mainly me. If you wish to leave the site, that's your choice (their are people here that take what you have to say and are interested), if you wish to stay that's cool too. I can't banish you, but if you stay you need to respect the views of others on this site. If not, I can erase your posts and will. As you can see I can do that. look at your previous post above.

[Edited by noticingthemistake on 08-13-2003 at 12:11 AM]