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07/30/2003 2:30 am
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
Actually, it was written in 1948. Orwell transposed the 4 and the 8 to get the title.


Haha. Yeah I guess that would have to be true since he past away in 1950. Yeah I had to look that up, haha. I thought for sure it was 1954, I don't know why. :confused:

Animal Farm, I believe was written from his depiction of Mussolini and Hitler. The story unfolds in the same way Hitler came to power. There are also hints on Mussolini in the fable, especially the way it ends.

[Edited by noticingthemistake on 07-29-2003 at 09:38 PM]
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07/30/2003 2:47 am
2 books I definetly reccomend:
The Celestine Prophocies...an amazing book that will change your veiw on life (anybody ever read this?).
Siddhartha.....by Henry Hess (actually anything by Henry Hess is very cool).
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07/30/2003 6:07 am
Originally posted by chris mood
2 books I definetly reccomend:
The Celestine Prophocies...an amazing book that will change your veiw on life (anybody ever read this?).
Siddhartha.....by Henry Hess (actually anything by Henry Hess is very cool).
The Celestine Profligacy - I had the sad task of explaining the shortcomings of this spiritually bankrupt epistle to my bereaved mother as she was desperately seeking ways to understand my brother's suicide.

Yes, by all means, yes, read it. Examine it closely. Reject it utterly.

Siddhartha, in my opinion, suffers from insufficient understanding of the philosophies and religious convictions that it purports to espouse. If it serves to encourage people to delve into the writings of the ancient Middle East, it is a good place to start. But no more than that.
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07/30/2003 12:45 pm
Read these books now:

The Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig

Oh yeah, and Incidents: the real "Howl" should start like this: "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical mad, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix" or something like that. There's also a lot of graphic sexual content that is edited out in some versions, but it's essential to the real poem. The beats were all about breaking boundaries and questioning conventions.

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07/30/2003 7:59 pm
Have you read any of the "Hitchhiker's Guide" series? There are a bunch of them. My personal favourite is "Young Zaphod Learns to Play it Safe", which is a short novel and seems to have no connection to the series other than that one of the characters is named Zaphod.

Hmmm... now I feel like re-reading the series!
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07/30/2003 10:29 pm
Is that book about Zaphod Beeblebrox? I didn't know there were any more of those books. It got to where Douglas Adams was adding subtitles about "the increasingly inaccurately named Hitchiker's triliogy". :)
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07/31/2003 1:50 pm
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
Is that book about Zaphod Beeblebrox? I didn't know there were any more of those books. It got to where Douglas Adams was adding subtitles about "the increasingly inaccurately named Hitchiker's trilogy". :)


Yeah, there were 5 books in the series, and one short story that doesn't appear in any of the bound volumes of the series, except for one that I borrowed from my friend.

The individual books were The Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy; The Restaurant at the End of the Universe; Life, the Universe and Everything; So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish; and Mostly Harmless. The novel I referred to was Young Zaphod Plays It Safe.

One problem is that, not only were there more than 3 novels in the trilogy, but there were alternate versions of each of the novels, plus a radio show that had a diverting storyline, a BBC television series, and various other offshoots of the original novel. This makes it hard to find a "definitive" version of the story, but the upside is that there's more out there to feed the inevitable addiction you will develop. (I read the entire 5 book series in something like a week and a half, only at night - I just couldn't put it down, and I was thinking about it all day at work).

Anyways, you'll find it very enjoyable to get into the series.
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07/31/2003 2:01 pm
Right, the subtitle I referred to is from "Mostly Harmless". I've read all of those five, but I hadn't seen "Young Zaphod Learns To Play It Safe", so now I have to find a copy!
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08/01/2003 5:05 am
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
Originally posted by Metalic Dude
... I wrighting a book myself DUDE! ...
I wish you well - I also hope you can hook up with a good editor, or at least get a word-processing program that has a spelling check function. :rolleyes:

:D:D:D
No software could handle this right,LOL.

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08/01/2003 5:05 pm
To the Dirt:
I was really interested in your coordination training programme. The really weird thing is that I have been doing some of the same things for the same reasons. I work for a linguistic philosopher and biblical scholar who happens to be in a wheelchair. I don't see the world in anything like the same light being a totally sceptical atheist (I have extensive experience of some of the psychological problems which the logical inconsistencies of religion can create) and also I don't understand the linguistic vocabulary he uses. His pace of work can be very slow sometimes and I often found myself yearning to play guitar or read a book, the former is out of the question (it would distract him) and the latter is difficult when you are being asked to type something else every 5 or 10 seconds or so. For this reason I took to writing things with my left hand, and yes I did wonder if anyone would be able to write both handedly, I am extremely impressed, that's such a neat trick! I took to this habit for two reasons: 1) I thought it would improve the way I pick with my left hand (I'm trying to become ambidextrous so I can solo like a total maniac) and 2) anything that widens your brains capacities is likely to have some beneficial side-effects.

To Noticing the Mistake:
I note that you stress the importance of mental exercise and how it can increase mental abillity, well, that's why there's such a big market for "boost your own IQ" books! During the course of my own life I have found that my own perceived intelligence has varied wildly. Depression is a condition of reduced brain activity brought on by bad experiences, poor lighting or just unfortunate brain chemistry. A manic-depressive friend of mine told me that apparently a psychological survey was done on the different kinds of thoughts entertained by manic and depressive people and it was found that, overall, the thoughts of the depressive were more logical than those of the manic maniac. For this reason one might envisage that intelligent people may be prone to depression and, having reached a depressive state, loose IQ only to gradually pick it up again as brain activity increases again! It is (universally) accepted by learning psychologists that serotonin, one of the brains happy hormones, a neuro-transmitter, is important in the learning process. This is why it's important to try and make the learning experience enjoyable.
I notice also that you recommend reading the dictionary! Well that sounds laudible to me but I'd rather just use a thesaurus a lot; - the words you get in a thesaurus are more widely applicable than all the crazy and obscure nouns you tend to find in a dictionary.

For fans of Kerouac:
I read on the road, to be honest it wasn't really my scene. Maybe I missed something but it seemed like a jumble of events and didn't seem to make any point or have any meaning to it. I heard from a friend of mine that Kerouac reputedly wrote it on amphetamines (speed) and fed his typewriter with paper that had been stapled together in order to make a big roll so that he wouldn't have to stop to feed it another sheet! Amphetamine intake might also have been implied by all those late night conversations between for instance Dean and Sal.

What I am amazed that nobody has mentioned yet is a series of experiments performed on three differently-treated sets of students before an exam. One set meditated before the exam, another listened to pop music and another listened to some classical music. Of these groups the classical group did best and the meditators and pop-exposed students had about the same success. If it is the case that music can increase the accesibility of memories then could it not be true that exercising the accesibility of memories by using your mind properly should also increase your musical abillity?

As for reading material, all of the books that follow really deeply impressed me:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep and Radio Free Albemuth by Phillip K. Dick. THis genius saddly died of a speed habit in 1981, he felt that it was the only way he could keep up his productivity enough to pay the bills. Possibly his drug habit was a major bill.. Don't be deceived by this, his last book, Radio Free Albemuth was utterly brilliant.
The Earth Sea Trilogy (Five books now exists so the Hitch-hikers guide is not unusual in this respect! The trilogy is better than the later two books though), The dispossessed and the Left hand of Darkness by Urusla LeGuinn. She has a rare gift for combining philosophically interesting work with characters who are lovable and believable in text which is both beautiful and yet easily readable.
The confessions and Memoirs of a justified sinner by James Hogg. A fascinating book covering aspects of religion and insanity.
Anything I've ever read by William Golding.
The handmaiden by Margaret Atwood, really chilling. I don't know her other work but I'll bet it's brilliant too, she is a real literary writer.
The Space merchants by Pohl and Kornbluth.

Hope that's not too much to chew, that's enough of me for the time being!
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08/02/2003 11:58 pm
Don’t feel bad, my intellect varies from day to day. Some days I can be very intellectual other days I can’t put a sentence together. I definitely believe people who are intelligent are more prone to depression than others. Intelligent people have a tendency to over-analyze themselves, or situations in a more critical way than most. It’s also sometimes said that intelligent people at such a level can sometimes see there own death (I suffer from this), and some grow so intelligent that they go insane. Many see there abilities sometimes farther and when they are not meet, well it’s very depressing. Like a athlete sees his/her physical abilities so do people see their mental abilities. It should definitely be fun and it’s easier on the mind when your having fun. The brain only has so much capacity for learning, people who are depressed usually have other things on their mind so they have less room to take things in. Same idea explains why people say you should only learn so much at a time. Great advice! It’s also good to review in your mind what you just learned.

When I read the dictionary I tend to skip over those words, I usually just skim through until I find a word I don’t know. Those are the ones I read about. As for novels, I don’t read very many. I have ADD so it’s impossible for me to stay focused long enough to read the entire thing. I tend to read scientific studies, especially astronomical, history, theoretical, and stuff like that. Literature of short or medium length but are also very thoughtful. Ideological books are often interesting enough to keep my attention, but if I want a story I’ll watch the movie.
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08/03/2003 12:10 am
[u]Memory and Musical Ability[/u]

Oh heck yeah. Simply put anything that improves your brain’s ability to function will improve anything you do. I have to disagree with scientists saying that our brain is an involuntary organ like the heart or stomach. We control and use our brain to do everything. Meditation is probably not the best thing to do before a test, the point of meditation is to clear the mind so you can more easily learn some new. Music in a sense stimulates brain activity, the brain actually works a lot more than we know when we listen to music. Especially Classical because classical music takes a lot of attention to follow. Pop music is very simple and not hard to make sense of, classical music is highly advanced in it’s structure so the brain will work twice as much to comprehend it.
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08/03/2003 5:16 pm
you can add? congradulations! I think you mean adhd.
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08/03/2003 8:06 pm
You can have Attention Deficit Disorder without having the additional complication of Hypertension.
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08/04/2003 4:37 am
ADD was not a recognised conditon when I was in school. Instead, the counsellors concluded that I was a 99.999 percentile genius, and my teachers were f*****g boring me! Not that it helped - they still didn't have a clue how to handle me. I'd say that the 10% at either end of the IQ scale are beyond the system's ability to cope, leaving 80% that are merely poorly served! :p
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08/04/2003 3:17 pm
Yeah Lord has it right although I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was first checked but we later found out that candy was the cause of my hyperactivity. :D hehe. ADD does suck though especially when you need to concentrate on something, I can't do it with anything except music. I'm glad I have at least something.
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08/05/2003 7:39 am
God am I boring! I'm not diagnosed with anything (yet)! I was an inveterate fidgeter (no innuendos please, I've already thought of them and they aren't funny) until I took up guitar. I used to pick things up, wonder off with them and loose them. I don't know if it's just me getting older or if guitar killed that habit.
I used to find school very boring too.. my primary school teacher got in an educational psychologist to assess me and his findings were opposite to expected, I was just too bored to think. I guess I was just precocious, 'cause I don't feel very bright now!
At secondary school I found English lessons particularly boring and pissed around so badly my teacher had to send me to a nother teacher to be bollocked. She had a brilliantly patronising way of bollocking me, she was a highly intelligent woman who made me feel the size of a pencil-rubber. I was bloody impressed to tell the truth! I remember that once my friend Neil locked my teacher out of his lesson.. the headmaster was walking past and, pretending that he didn't have major problems with class control he acted all nonchalant apparently. I missed the affair because I'd already been sent to the deputy head's office!
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08/07/2003 9:35 am
No joke, my bros girlfriend's family on the female side read from 8 am in the morning to 10 at night!
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