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LordLuzifer
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07/20/2003 1:32 am
what's an acciaccaturas and what's a fermenta?
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07/20/2003 2:22 am
An acciaccaturas is the italian word for "grace note". A grace note is a smaller note with a slash through it written before another note. So you just play that note real quick before the next note.

A fermenta is a musical symbol (an arc above a single dot) placed over a note or rest to be extended beyond its normal duration.
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07/25/2003 1:28 am
Haha, I remember in my music class, studying a 20th Century classical piece(Raymond Dean - Seachanges... really awful), everytime the word "acciaccaturas" was mentioned I couldnt help laughing uncontrollably... there were millions of em

Is it the same as a "crushed note"?
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07/25/2003 3:18 am
Originally posted by Led Zeppelin
Is it the same as a "crushed note"?


Yeah. That's it's definition, but to save myself from the next question being, "what's a crushed note?". Well, I just said it's a grace note, which is what it is. Different term but the same thing. Traditional purists and Italians will often refer to it as a 'acciaccaturas'. I think Powertab calls it that too, if by any chance that is why you asked. We now call it a grace note.

Mozart used them alot and very well. Although I can't imagine using them that much, it would sound too goofy. :D Like when you roll your knuckles arcosst the black keys and play, "da-ah-la da da, da-ah-la da da". Ticks off piano players when you do that. hehe

[Edited by noticingthemistake on 07-24-2003 at 10:22 PM]
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07/25/2003 4:46 am
I like doing that. It's fun.

I LOL'ed at "da-ah-la da da, da-ah-la da da"

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07/25/2003 12:09 pm
yeah that is why i asked, but now i've more..
what makes a grace note different that a 16th or a 32th?
and what makes a farmenta diferent than just write a longer rest or choose a longer note duration?
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07/25/2003 3:45 pm
I'm surprised that you knew what I was talking about, pantallica. I didn't think I explained that well.hah

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Their is no difference between a grace note and 32nd note (16th notes isn't a grace note). It's the same duration and it is played the same, it's just easier to write than if you had to write it out with ties or such. i.e. Say you have a half-note then the next note is a grace note to a quarter note. Instead of writing a quarter note tied to a eighth note tied to a dotted sixteenth note, and finally a 32nd note to the quarter note, you would just write what I had stated at the beginning of this example. You can see where it saves alot of trouble.

The same thing goes with the fermenta. Each measure has a correct limit to the duration of a measure. Like you can only have 4 quarter notes in a 4/4 measure. That's the limit of that measure, you can't add anymore notes. This is where a fermenta comes in. Say you had a 4/4 measure and you had 4 quarters and you wanted the last note to play out longer than the other notes. Then you would write a fermenta above the last note. Usually a fermenta is placed at the end of a phrase, and usually only lasts as long as a the note if it was dotted. This is why it looks like a dot with a tie above it. So if you had a fermenta above a quarter note, it would have the duration of a dotted quarter note. Regardless of the limit of beats in a measure. It pretty much saves you from having to extend the time signature to fit the measure or writting a new bar to tie the duration of the note equally.
Hope that makes sense.

[Edited by noticingthemistake on 07-25-2003 at 10:49 AM]
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07/25/2003 3:55 pm
So THATS how the small numbers befor the normal numbers in the tabs called...
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