Jason Becker Vs. Yngwie Malmsteen


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04/18/2003 5:40 pm
Who's your guys favorite guitarist.. Yngwie or Jason becker..personlly ilove them both and think their 2 of the many greatest guitarist in the world..
but jason is out of buisness now due to Lue Ghregors (how ever u spell it) like many of u already no..post what u think bout these to guitar gods'
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04/18/2003 11:47 pm
Jason Becker is better technically & musicaly.

Anyway , there are lots of guitarist now who can outplay these two , but I believe that if Jason Becker was still able to play no body could have topped him.
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04/19/2003 3:37 am
Who is Jason Becker? And why can't he play no more? Broke his fingers?
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04/19/2003 4:11 am
no jason didnt break his finger..he has lue gherigs (not spelled right)its a disease that screws up ur nervous system and is uncurable.. the guy cant move from neck down barly..he has to point things out with his eyes only..
jason i say is even technically when compared to yngwie (although i think yngwies shred is clearer) but musically.. jason beats yngwie but do remember that yngwie was one of jasons biggest inspiration or idol when he stated playing
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04/19/2003 11:44 am
They both play very clean and clear , but Becker is significantly faster and harder to immitate his licks ... Probably you mean Malmsteen's tone which is cleaner than Becker's , which is true although I prefere Becker's tone.
It's also noticeable that Becker's sweeping is much complicated than anybody else's .

And yeah , Malmsteen was the main inspiration for most late '80s shredders.
If you wanna listen to faster shredding , try Michael Angelo.
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04/19/2003 11:43 pm
Jason is better. First of all, I don´t know why evrybody´s talkin´ about Yngwies sweep technique, it´s pretty basic if you compare to Jason´s stuff. Stuff like Serana is mentaly wicked!

Than Jason isn´t repetative as Yngwie. Especially younger Yngwie had a couple licks wich he seemed to pull of constantly and still today I can have hard time to tell wich solo is wich, they all sound pretty same.

Jason stuff was much more exotic. And he´s faster than Yngwie too. Also Jason could play on slow stuff and speed was not alway´s in his mind. He would usualy leave space for feel but of course speed dominated.

But despite that I find Jason as a better guitarist and musican, Yngwies Far Beyond The Sun and he´s first album beats Jason´s Perpetual Burn. But the thing is that Yngwie is stil stuck in his stuff and I´m sure that Jason if he could stil play today would be the BEST guitarist ever. I mean, guy was only like 17-20 yrs. old when he made all those albums.
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04/19/2003 11:58 pm
People talk about Malmsteen's sweeping too much cuz he was a pioneer of this technique back in time , just as Van Halen pioneered tapping... Now both seem lame , but this doesn't diminish their major role in spreading their techniques and influencing following generations.

And yeah bro , the thing I hate most about Malmsteen too is repetition , those ultra-boring diminished 3 string sweeps in every song , the harmonic minor scale , the pedal notes , etc. .
But I still respect him for the same reason , cuz he never sells out , and he always had it his own way no matter what.
I heard that he turned down an offer from Ozzy, to concentrate on his first solo album project which was "Rising Force". (not deadsure of that)
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04/20/2003 8:32 am
i do agree yngwies stuff is repetivie and thanx for corecting me earlier..i did mean cleaner tone..allot of yngwie early stuff is good adn i like his concert suite album..i dont see wats so special bout becker makin a cd at the age of 17-18 he was a prodigy ..he was introduced to the guitar at a real early age by his parents but im sure u prob know that.. jason has some made sweeps but now days there are more talented ppl technical wise.. musicall wise i believe that beethoven and all the great composers were the most musically talented but thats a ways back
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04/20/2003 1:59 pm
No , Jason Becker's sweeps are still very hard to immitate.
Even technical masters like Michael Angelo doesn't make complicated sweeps with wide streches Becker used to do.
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04/20/2003 2:53 pm
Yngwie all tha ****in way man!!!

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04/20/2003 5:59 pm
yngwie turned down David Lee Roth, not ozzy i belive.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

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04/20/2003 11:57 pm
I know that Yngwie turned down an offer from Deep Purple and than they got Morse instead. Yngwie said that there can´t be a Deep Purple whitout Richie who is his fav. guitar player.

And for Jason, belive me, there aren´t many folks out there that can sweep better than him. I know that guitar playn´ style took a great step from Hendrix, Purple, Sabbath, Kiss, AC/DC...stuff into more extreme playn´ stile during the early 80:s but still today it has not advanced that much. I mean there aren´t any new techniques today that didn´t exist in the eightis. Only thing that improved a lot is the sound and effect options.

And yeah, Yngwie was the man behind sweeping and he was the one who made shred and neo classical music popular. He´s more legendary than Jason no doubt about it.
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04/21/2003 3:11 pm
yeah..yngwie probly is more legendary but jason would probly as legendary if he didnt get put out of the game..
michangelo is nothin but technical playing..his muscic is about as sterile as a doctors hand (stupid but who cares)
i admitt that jason had some hard sweeps but the neoclassical sweeps tht he does in serrana are pretty boring to me
im sure that there are plenty of prodigies that ppl never hear about that can sweep just as good or even better than becker.
in the end their my 2 fav guitarist but my favorite instrumentalist would be the classical ppl (bach,beethoven etc..)they put allot of emotion into ther music and i can say i havnt heard many ppl beside a couple (some yngwie,slash, jason becker) that could put as much emtion into their songs as the classical guys could
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04/21/2003 3:35 pm
Yeah , lots of ppl can play Becker sweep stuff (I can play serrana , altitudes & perpetual burns sweepings with no problem) , but I've never heard anybody who can go further than Becker with sweep picking.

Anyway, I'm sure that someday someone's gonna break the rule , cuz that's how things alwasy go.
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04/21/2003 6:08 pm
ya know saying yngwie is sloppy when he plays is like saying eddie van halen didnt make tapping popular in the guitar world.. i say yngwie has a cleaner(meanin u can hear all the notes clearly) shred than jason.. and if yngwie does have the ego the size of texas.. i think he has the right to do that..he changed the way players play when coming to speed and accuracy and technical ability ..hes a guitar legend
im not even gonna try serrana with my pitifull arpeggios skills but the parts that arnt arpeggios in altitudes is pretty easy
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04/21/2003 7:27 pm
becker is a overall better guitarist and musician. but because of his disease his career was cut short, and he was never able to make his "Rising Force". altough he has come close (Speed Metal Symphony) and some of his songs kick yngwie's ass, but overall, in that respect yngwie has the better album.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

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04/22/2003 1:02 am
Yngwie ain't sloppy , his playing is crystal clear , but he's a little bit sloppy live .

And no body has the right to have so much ego , regarding that malmsteen is not the fastest nor the best technicaly or musicaly ... Also he didn't invent his shredding or neoclassical music from nothing , shredding was always there and developing before he came into the scene.
And he wasn't the ace of spades from his generation that includes other greats like Steve Vai & Satriani .

But he'll always be a great and influencing musician.
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04/22/2003 1:55 am
i can understand being sloppy live b/c everyones gonna have their good days and their bad ones... under my opinion..i think anyone who spends close to 6 hours and up playing guitar ex: eddy van halen, i dont know bout jason, and yngwie.. they all can have an ego..maybe not as large as yngwie has but an ego..some people get onto him bc he wont let them write any of the bands music..well would u let someone paint ur own personal painting..most likly not
one song live thats not sloppy is trilogy suite 5 op live and spanish castlemagic live..
let me refrase wat i said earlier..i didnt mean for it to sound like he created the stlye but his speed and dexterity had a big impact on the guitar world, drastically increasing the levl of technical ability exspected on guitarist..
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04/22/2003 2:01 am
Dude , shredding was already moving on , even if Malmsteen never made it into the music scene.
He's not the god of shredding .

BTW, if you listened to different kinds of music like classic or flamenco , you'll notice that shredding was always there , just different tastes.
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04/22/2003 3:01 am
no were in there do i state he is the god of shredding.. im just sayin he had a big part in the technical ability espected from guitarist in that day.. yes i listen to classical..it all depends on what type the cuz im more for the slow meldy liek classical than some of the fast ones
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