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mc9mm
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01/13/2003 5:04 pm
I bet 5000+ guitarists can play faster than Yngwie, BUT:
Like you say, he was first, and now he's sort of a legend, and that you cant take away from him.
But he has one more huge advantage:
He is the perfect diva!
He can play, and he knows it.
If you go around claiming you're the fastest, the ebst, the most good looking, the hottest, nicest, wildest, richest guitarist in the universe, and Yngwie has done this for over 20 years, then people notice him.
Because after all, Malmsteen is one of the worlds most famous guitarists, but I dont think everyone actually LIKES him.
I bet a large percentage of his "fans" really REALLY hates him.
He is a show artist with a HUGE ego, and that has made him one of the most famous (if not the most famous) guitarist ever.
Example:
Yngwie malmsteen is strutting around on stage as usual, and while playing he flips his guitar and show the crowd the ferrari logo he has on the back of guitar.
Then he screams in to the mic: "I've got 2 of them!"
Hehehe, you gotta love him.

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01/13/2003 5:17 pm
I agree - Noone doubts malsteens technique and success. back in his days he might have been god on the guitar (which is not true, because there where other damn fast guitarrists too - but however), but back then you also had a Commodore C64 and it rocked - and what is it nowadays? a relic.

And for the songwriting aspect - his music is apart from a few bright moments just boring and carries very little of something that is called "musicality". No matter what you might think of his songs - fact is - and every musician who has a little mature experience will aknowledge this: they are musically worthless. He´s a major back rippoff. he´s done nothing new - he just played it 1000 times as fast - so whats the deal about it? just because i was the first person who farted into a microphone and recorded it, does the make me a great musician? especially guitarists always get blinded by the thrill of speed. more often than once those dudes are greenhorn-guitarrists who are impressed by the technique - and it seems impossible to make them clear that thats just the tip of the iceberg. music happens elsewhere - part of it is speed - but only a small part. you could give me 1000 malmsteens plus 100 al di meolas - i would not take them - been there - seen that.

Infact there are only two things a man needs in life - a toohbrush and Jeff Beck.

And maybe someday you might think back and realize that this was not just senseless malsteen bashig. ;) Dont get this the wrong way - if malmsteen is your god and the only thing in your musical universe, then be it so. Its your musical universe not mine - i keep on expanding.

[Edited by Azrael on 01-13-2003 at 11:19 AM]

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01/13/2003 5:43 pm
Thanx for the tip aiwass - thanx - nadia is friggen amazing - a real jeff beck! - now your turn - get into "a day in a life" (beatles cover) - he did the vocal part from lennon on the guitar. all george martin had to say about it was "It was Jeff's idea to tackle 'A Day In The Life', and he is the one guitarist who can make his instrument sing like the human voice. The orchestra was hardly needed for the climax; the guitar says it all."

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01/13/2003 6:34 pm
BECK? Granted a great guitarest, but my origional post was about a little differant type of instramentation.
I personaly never cared for Beck much as some of who you don't like a speed demon, (showoff)He never inspired me much, just my opinion. Don't mean to offend. Clapton either.

Speed guitar Vs smooth is a mute issue, I know full well as it has been debated here TOO much.

I posted about JOHN JAUNESE and his demo, knowing this speed issue would come up. But because of the poor sample quality you can get from the demo songs , it's realy hard to hear, what I think in a fully produced album will result, a differant metal rock, maybe neo classic sound. Defantly not a rip off. Granted "Speed of Light" was a speed demo, I think if you listen though, like the moderater of this thread said, the guy is freakin' awsome. But you have to listen to it, not just half ass hear it. No ofense.

Fron John's first fully produced album, I imagine, you may hear some great rock,and severe guitar, not copy cat s***!

I not saying this 'cause he emailed me back, just that I hear something differant there that's sounds as though John could defantly write some serious s***!


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01/13/2003 7:09 pm
I THINK PLAYING FAST ALL THE TIME IS BORING. I HEAR THINGS IN MY HEAD BEFORE I PLAY THEM. IF I HEAR FAST IN MY HEAD, I KNOW ITS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SONG. IF I HEAR SLOW, THEN I PLAY SLOW. FEEL THE MUSIC. DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TECHNIQUE. IF PLAYING FAST FOR YOU IS PLAYING THE SAME SCALE OVER AND OVER, THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO LEARN MORE SCALES.
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01/13/2003 7:14 pm

Did you CHECK who just wrote that last thread folks??
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01/13/2003 7:35 pm
yeah - someone who does not know that typing in caps is considered as shouting and rudeness.

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01/13/2003 7:45 pm
Im not here for you to correct puctuation, AND YES I DID KNOW WHAT LOCKING CAPS MEAN. This better for you, or am I being rude?
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01/13/2003 7:45 pm
apart from that it seems obvious that this "JOHN JAUNESE" and you are the same person - dont think of us as fools - i just looked at his blurb and saw the proof there that you and him are the same:

You are having some very unique typos all the time like "instramentation", "differant", "Defantly" etc.. well - john jaunese seems to have that same writing disability:

Interests:MUSIC,SPORTS, "ASTRONAMY"

so first:
grow up - how old are you? 10? 12?

second:
stop impersonating other dudes - if you need some attention then get a life

third:
how would you like if i just emailed the original John Jaunese that some lil kid is posting stuff in his name?

James or lali - will one of you please take care of this? Thanx!


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01/13/2003 7:48 pm
oh yes - and dont think you can change that now- i have a screenshot.

plus that last post of mr "JAUNESE" proved to me that it is not him - he (according to the email you posted) would not react like this.

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01/13/2003 7:54 pm
REST ASSURED IT'S REALLY JOHN JAUNESE. ANY DOUBTS? GO TO GUITARNINE WEBSITE AND E-MAIL ME

[Edited by JOHN JAUNESE on 01-13-2003 at 10:53 PM]
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01/13/2003 7:55 pm
if so, then take my apology - if not - get out!

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01/13/2003 8:05 pm
MAN THIS FORUM IS A ROUGH CROUD. NOBODY E-MAILED ME FOR PROOF SO I GUESS THATS SETTLED.
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01/13/2003 8:33 pm
I AM GOING TO PUT ALL MY TUNES ON POWERTAB. JUST DOWNLOAD POWERTAB EDITOR AND YOUR READY TO GO. ITS ALOT OF WORK. THINK OF HOW MANY NOTES MIGHT BE IN A NEO-CLASSICAL METAL TUNE. IF YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT POWERTAB MAN ARE YOU IN FOR A TREAT! MOST SHRED STUFF IS ON POWERTAB ALREADY.
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01/13/2003 8:43 pm
Kool. Thats what I use also, POWERTAB. Works nice for guitar midi stuff. I love it.

"187" AWESOME!!! :D
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01/13/2003 10:43 pm
JJJ, welcome to the forum man. despite Azzy's rough welcome, this is probably the best forum on the net. i hope you stay, we could learn a lot from you. it would be interesting.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

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01/14/2003 6:43 am
Look - it´s not my goal to piss peeps off. nore do i want to chase away the newbies - as zeppo said we are used to strange members - and it realy seemed to me that you and the other dude are the same person. that´s no offense against the real you if it is you, because if you are you then he is not you which means that i was wrong and i´m sorry.. (now i´m confused). And if you is you then i´m quite happy to have you (i hope you are you) on this board and who knows - maybe if you are you then you might be in the host section too.

(.... goes and sees a doc)

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01/14/2003 6:44 am
.. now that even rhymed! *LOL*

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01/14/2003 6:54 am

I would not impersonate anyone. The John in question was and is really John.
I am sure JJJ holds no grudges. If he didn't towards me and my origional email to him, there's NO WAY he could hold a grude at you.

No I'm not his promotor, just like his style and disapline.

Just a real virtuoso on the forum, and that's a fact.
Cool don't you think.
But if you still don't believe it, just email him f/ the site where you can download the songs, Thats proof enough.
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01/14/2003 10:16 am
Virtuoso or not, whats the deal, is his caps lock button stuck?
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