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06/13/2020 5:41 pm

Forgive me, I'm sure this has been asked. I'm stuck on the B major chord. I can play it, it's just that I'm super slow changing to it. Do I wait until I'm faster at it to progress in the course, or just move on but make sure to keep practicing it? Thanks!


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06/13/2020 7:58 pm

I struugled for years on that chord i would use just the bottom strings to get part of the chord or use the bm the other way is go down to the 7th fret and use the barr chord f shape, I used to avoid song with that chord, you just have to be patient as it dose get easier


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06/13/2020 9:47 pm

I am working on fundimentals 1 and 2 simultaniously. I really struggled with the F "open" chord and was not happy with the thin sound so I decided to just dive right into barr F. Not sure this is a good idea but I am enjoying and have been somewhat successful. The B is scaring me a bit :)

I think many ask this same question in regards to direction but in the end for me its about continuing to learn and not be afraid to go back to older lessons.


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06/13/2020 10:23 pm
Originally Posted by: robbakerscI'm stuck on the B major chord. I can play it, it's just that I'm super slow changing to it. Do I wait until I'm faster at it to progress in the course, or just move on but make sure to keep practicing it? Thanks!

[br]Short answer. Second option, but make sure you do keep at it. i.e. work on the stuff you find hard, not the stuff which comes easy.

For further help recommendations;

A. How are [u]you[/u] playing it?

B. Which chord [u]specifically[/u] are you slow changing to /(from?) it?

Two years in I can play it and have no problem with it any voicing any more than B7, Bm all forms and haven't for > 18 months, so my recommendation would be to continue with progress, but also put in the time getting B right, especially if it's a chord which features or will feature a lot in the songs you intend to play. Ultimately it's just about evaluating accurately what the particular obstacle is to your smooth transitioning and putting in the time hands on until you develop the desired level of competency. There's simply no substitute for repetition. The key to it is making it a fun rather than laborious exercise.

To that end, finding a song you love which uses or requires a particular chord is the optimum way to drive yourself to do that IMPE. e.g. I played a lot of early Beatle's material from the outset, so mastery in changing at fairly quick tempo to and from all voicings and of B, Bm & B7 was essential.


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06/13/2020 10:30 pm
Originally Posted by: manXcat
Originally Posted by: robbakerscI'm stuck on the B major chord. I can play it, it's just that I'm super slow changing to it. Do I wait until I'm faster at it to progress in the course, or just move on but make sure to keep practicing it? Thanks!

[br]Short answer. Second option, but make sure you do keep at it. i.e. work on the stuff you find hard, not the stuff which comes easy.

For further help recommendations;

A. How are [u]you[/u] playing it?

B. Which chord [u]specifically[/u] are you slow changing to /(from?) it?

Two years in I can play it and have no problem with it any voicing any more than B7, Bm all forms and haven't for > 18 months, so my recommendation would be to continue with progress, but also put in the time getting B right, especially if it's a chord which features or will feature a lot in the songs you intend to play. Ultimately it's just about evaluating accurately what the particular obstacle is to your smooth transitioning and putting in the time hands on until you develop the desired level of competency. There 's simply no substitute for repetition. The key to it is making it a fun rather than laborious exercise.

To that end, finding a song you love which uses or requires a particular chord is the optimum way to drive yourself to do that IMPE. e.g. I played a lot of early Beatle's material from the outset, so mastery in changing at fairly quick tempo to and from all voicings and of B, Bm & B7 was essential.

Thanks, everyone! Really appreciate the input. manX, I'm playing what I think is the standard version they teach in Fundamentals 1. I am slow getting to it from any chord, or even just going straight to it from the start.


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06/14/2020 1:39 am

Try using this (variation 1) voicing if you're not already. Although I can play the alternatives, pretty much everyone experienced that I know does, including me. Perfect for Rock tones in that octave.

The same 2nd fret voicing with the traditional 1,2,3,4 fingered form can be cramped on narrower fingerboards with tighter string spacings rendering it awkward, and is generally slower to form accurately. With repetitious practice, that isn't an issue at slower tempo songs, but still may not be as ergonomic as variation 1 depending upon the preceding and following chords. Just experiment with what works for you.

In the final analysis, it just comes down to paying attention to fault finding through hands on experimentation and consolidating through repetitous practice. It just takes time and determination/commitment.

FWIW I have smaller hands, and at two years progress, I can perform all the Bmaj variations illustrated at that link. Currently competely fluid with all except Variation 4, but that's simply down to not using it much in application so far. A day or so hammering it would see it fluid too. You''ll be there too soon enough.

[br]GL with it. I've found the progress curve exponential.


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06/14/2020 1:40 pm
Originally Posted by: manXcat

Try using this (variation 1) voicing if you're not already. Although I can play the alternatives, pretty much everyone experienced that I know does, including me. Perfect for Rock tones in that octave.

The same 2nd fret voicing with the traditional 1,2,3,4 fingered form can be cramped on narrower fingerboards with tighter string spacings rendering it awkward, and is generally slower to form accurately. With repetitious practice, that isn't an issue at slower tempo songs, but still may not be as ergonomic as variation 1 depending upon the preceding and following chords. Just experiment with what works for you.

In the final analysis, it just comes down to paying attention to fault finding through hands on experimentation and consolidating through repetitous practice. It just takes time and determination/commitment.

FWIW I have smaller hands, and at two years progress, I can perform all the Bmaj variations illustrated at that link. Currently competely fluid with all except Variation 4, but that's simply down to not using it much in application so far. A day or so hammering it would see it fluid too. You''ll be there too soon enough.

[br]GL with it. I've found the progress curve exponential.

Thank you! I think I just need more patience, perhaps. Story of my life.


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