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jim1963
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05/28/2020 2:30 pm

Hello,

Well another member described my many year guitar journey pretty well "try hard - fail, try harder - fail, and give up frustrated". I am the type to be "all in" for a short period of time purchase everything, read everything, and expect timely results - only to give up too soon.

Ok, so I have a problem and am thinking thus far after a month on GT this might be the cure!

Raced through Lisa's classes and have been in my "music room" about two hours a day. I have a Seagull S6 acoustic and Epiphone Les Paul Studio boucing between them both based on finger fatigue (acoustic for technique until fingers hurt then an hour on electic). I study techniques for an hour in the morning and then play some songs for an hour late day.

My entire reason for playing guitar is I love slow tempo jazz guitar played on electric with a few slow strummed chords and finger playing. Trouble is that seems "5 picks difficulty" away and a very difficult barre chords journey ahead and typically I just give up. I am not a big rock fan but am going through the basic lessons playing beginner songs like Simple Man, Perfect, and Hotel California, and must admit I like the progress and sense of accomplishment. I don't know what to do after guitar basics but will try to compile that lesson plan (no clue how to construct my journey).

I am going to try and stick with it and hope the journey at some point gives me the talent to try a few jazz progressions and along the way if I can play some easy rock and have a smile while doing it - ALL GOOD.

Good luck to other IGT's!!!

Jim


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JeffS65
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05/28/2020 5:06 pm
Originally Posted by: jim1963

Hello,

Well another member described my many year guitar journey pretty well "try hard - fail, try harder - fail, and give up frustrated". I am the type to be "all in" for a short period of time purchase everything, read everything, and expect timely results - only to give up too soon.

Ok, so I have a problem and am thinking thus far after a month on GT this might be the cure!

Raced through Lisa's classes and have been in my "music room" about two hours a day. I have a Seagull S6 acoustic and Epiphone Les Paul Studio boucing between them both based on finger fatigue (acoustic for technique until fingers hurt then an hour on electic). I study techniques for an hour in the morning and then play some songs for an hour late day.

My entire reason for playing guitar is I love slow tempo jazz guitar played on electric with a few slow strummed chords and finger playing. Trouble is that seems "5 picks difficulty" away and a very difficult barre chords journey ahead and typically I just give up. I am not a big rock fan but am going through the basic lessons playing beginner songs like Simple Man, Perfect, and Hotel California, and must admit I like the progress and sense of accomplishment. I don't know what to do after guitar basics but will try to compile that lesson plan (no clue how to construct my journey).

I am going to try and stick with it and hope the journey at some point gives me the talent to try a few jazz progressions and along the way if I can play some easy rock and have a smile while doing it - ALL GOOD.

Good luck to other IGT's!!!

Jim

If you were to graph how a guitar playing learner progressed as a line graph with the vertical axis being skill and the horizontal axis being time, you'd see the skill improvment flat for a good longer time than you'd probably want. Than any one of us wanted. Then comes that day where the skill curve starts looking like a jet taking off from an aircraft carrier.

Sure, there will be plataus but after a certain amount is skill is acquired, you realize that it's time that broadens horizons.

What does that mean to you?

From what I read, you're still on the flatter side of the time-versus-skill axis. No biggie though. Every instructor here or anyone that has ever played guitar was at that same place. Every single one, to a person.

The point is; when you're in the beginning 'flat zone', that's when most people give up. Don't do that. Don't believe that just because it's not happening now that it won't happen. It will in due time and with due dillegence.

The time that stuck for me, back in '81, was seeing BB King on Austin City Limts and Led Zeppelin 'The Song Remains the Same' at one of those midnight movie things...in the same week! I wasn't going to play like them or with enough skill for a good long time but I also learned that just learning stuff on the guitar was awesome. Eventually I did get 'good enough' as a player to have other players consider me a 'good guitar player'...whatever that means.

Like with the simple rock songs you enjoyed progressing one, good job! And, good that you noted how much you enjoyed the accomplishment. Those songs are tools to get you further along. They did that. Keep that kind of habit for as long as you play. Find the steps that get you there.


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William MG
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05/28/2020 8:13 pm

Welcome Jim

I have a Seagull S6 Slim. They are both great guitars with great necks. Barr chords wont' be too difficult for you on this guitar once you get the technique down.

As Jeff points out there is an "aha" moment. Took me about 15 months or so, maybe a bit less, but all of a sudden things just started making sense. Maybe it will come quicker for you, maybe not. I just spent the last hour with a friend writing a song and whereas my friend can execute instinctively, it takes me some time. So for instance if we came up with the idea to have a walk up from and a G to a C (chords), Scott just does it. I know what he means, but it takes me longer. I have to think about it. We both end up at the same spot, but I am still like the model T to his Ferrari! Its coming though, it will for you as well.

Keep at it and enjoy the journey.


This year the diet is definitely gonna stick!

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05/28/2020 10:47 pm
Originally Posted by: jim1963

Hello,

Well another member described my many year guitar journey pretty well "try hard - fail, try harder - fail, and give up frustrated". I am the type to be "all in" for a short period of time purchase everything, read everything, and expect timely results - only to give up too soon.

Ok, so I have a problem and am thinking thus far after a month on GT this might be the cure!

Raced through Lisa's classes and have been in my "music room" about two hours a day. I have a Seagull S6 acoustic and Epiphone Les Paul Studio boucing between them both based on finger fatigue (acoustic for technique until fingers hurt then an hour on electic). I study techniques for an hour in the morning and then play some songs for an hour late day.

My entire reason for playing guitar is I love slow tempo jazz guitar played on electric with a few slow strummed chords and finger playing. Trouble is that seems "5 picks difficulty" away and a very difficult barre chords journey ahead and typically I just give up. I am not a big rock fan but am going through the basic lessons playing beginner songs like Simple Man, Perfect, and Hotel California, and must admit I like the progress and sense of accomplishment. I don't know what to do after guitar basics but will try to compile that lesson plan (no clue how to construct my journey).

I am going to try and stick with it and hope the journey at some point gives me the talent to try a few jazz progressions and along the way if I can play some easy rock and have a smile while doing it - ALL GOOD.

Good luck to other IGT's!!!

Jim

Hi there,

I'm glad you're having fun with the course! We do not have a Jazz course within our Core Learning System, but I think if you stick with it and get through both Guitar Fundamentals level 1 and level 2 courses, you will be in good shape.

I recommend giving blues level 1 a shot, as some of the techniques there bleed over into the jazz genre.

We do have a series of Jazz guitar lessons from Christopher, and they're really great. However, they are a bit advanced and requires you to have some knowledge of 7th chords, and are able to switch around barre chords easily but I think you should still give it a look here: https://www.guitartricks.com/style.php?input=jazz

Christopher's Jazz Guitar set of tutorials is the one I'm referring to.

I hope that helps!


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