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Picking Out a New Guitar - What to Play?


JethroTroll
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03/09/2020 12:42 am

I just joined guitartricks recently. Before guitartricks, I watched a few YouTube videos and learned very few basics. I know only a couple of chords and am still working on transitioning between chords seemlessly.

I've been borrowing my son's Epiphone Les Paul Special II so far and I know I'm hooked enough to buy my own. I can afford to spend a bit more on myself, but rather than ask here what to buy (because there are a trillion such questions on Reddit), I'm here to ask what to play in the shop to compare guitars given my very limited skill and experience.

What are some basic things I should try to learn over the next few days to get the most out of my shopping experience? What is relatively easy to learn that will help me compare guitars? I popped into a local shop for a few the other day, but was super overwhelmed because I didn't know what to do when I pulled one down off of the wall. If I'm going to spend $5-700 on a guitar, I would really like to consider more than just how pretty it is. What can I play that my untrained ear can use to compare?

Thanks!


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03/09/2020 2:02 am

Going into a large guitar store as a relative neophyte will be a confusing experience overwhelmed by bewildering choice. It's as difficult not to be seduced as it is to make a logically sound decision.

So my first adivce would be, do your research first, and have in mind some initial direction or influence as a starting point datum prior to walking in.

If you do buy on that or a subsequent visit, buy what the immediate task of learning for the first few years needs, not what so many other largely irrelevant event factors will 'seduce' you to want. I.e. head (logic) should be the 75% determining factor, heart (emotion) the other 25%.

With electric, other than any guitar being comfortable and playable, the amp is more important than the guitar in your spec budget to 'tone'. Depending upon your level of committment and budget ensure you spend sufficient there even if it means less on a headstock brand name 'value'. If budget isn't a restricting factor, buy both.

We're all inspired to some temperamentally varying degree by the look (aesthetics and image association in our mind's eye) of any guitar. Left brained orientated as I am, I'm far from immune. But learning guitar is about putting in the time and long term committment. All excitement and motivation provided by novelty of a new adventure and exciting initial experience will wear off as it will in any relationship, even with a bona fide soulmate if not putting the work even when the weather turns rough when keeping things on an even keel isn't plain sailing, so don't let image association be the overiding factor in your purchase.

For anyone who sticks with it, your first guitar won't be your only or last in all likelihood if my experience and observation of others in contemporary society is any indication. Bear that in mind.

The sceptic in me knows that ultimately every guitar store is a business, so, remember the store is there to sell you a guitar, any guitar, which any sales person of rudimentary capability not a disinterested shop floor droid, will quickly qualify you and use every wile in the sales book to close you and have you walk out the door with a guitar. Like war, the first casualty in the store is truth, although the spin will always be the hackneyed noble nonsense 'dressed up in tinsel and tinfoil (noble rhetoric, "dulce et decorm est, pro patria mori", medals & parades) to hide its uglier reality' to paraphrase the late W.E. Johns. OK so no-one's gonna' die if you buy the 'wrong' guitar, but I think the deliberate hyperbole in that analogy makes its point.

Armed with that, GL. Confronted by that array of info overload which will present, after applying a base eliminative triage, follow through by deciding quickly, acting decisively and just dive in the water. Hands on will quickly reveal more than limitless hypothesising ever will. In the final analysis considering those criteria, the one which must pervade is the fun and enjoyment in the doing. If that's there, a broom with strings attached would do at a pinch.

Cheers,

manXcat


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03/09/2020 2:36 am

Thanks for that really thorough and thoughtful reply! Seems like great first guitar buying advice.

Sounds like the suggestion is to focus more on feel than on sound.

If an amp is more important at this point, what am I looking for in an amp? I was eyeing the Katana 50 mkii due to what appears to be great versatility and the ability to get a ton of different sounds and effects without a collection of pedals.

Thanks again.


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03/09/2020 3:57 am

Christopher Schlegel of Guitar Tricks owns and uses a Katana 50. His opinion on anything to do with music, guitar and keyboard I value and respect. He sings its praises affording it a credibility absent in the endless fanboy cacophony.

That said, I don't have a Katana 50 original or Mk II, but they're loved by the majority of buyers who own one. I do have a similar digital modelling practice amp in an ID:Core 40. Any of a Katana, Mustang, ID:Core, Code et al would be a decent first all rounder choice as long as A. you are comfortable with the ergonomics and complexity of a digital modelling amp, and B. it's what you want. To effectively use the features of any digital modelling amp in general there's a considerable hands on learning curve, but their versatility will serve you well into the future so they're inarguably bang for the buck.

My own priority buying any guitar now having bought more than a few since I started is that personal physical fit is paramount, comfort in fretting its neck profile and fretboard characteristics being #1 priority. Second consideration would be based upon preferred pickup config and other design considerations i.e. scale length, string gauge, bridge type etc. Third, build quality overall, including an inclusive fourth of hardware.

What kind/genre of music is it your current future objective to hope to be able to play?

From the versatility standpoint, a HSS Strat style guitar is difficult to beat and has most genre bases covered. I'm personally partial to Teles too, but of course the conventional Tele config doesn't have a humbucker. Traditionally based Les Paul styles sound like a beast, but can also feel like riding one. Choice and thus info overload induced confusion abounds when starting out.

[br]Pick one you like the look of which feels good in the hand that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and dive in. It'll be an age before 'tone' becomes meaningful or practically matters beyond what an amp like the Katana can achieve with even decent if inexpensive pickups anyway.

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03/09/2020 3:08 pm

Hi Jethro

My thoughts, good luck

Jethro

And I don't think I said it, but for me, guitars are like girlfriends. I am not allowed to have girlfriends but I do like pretty little things. So for me, it all starts with what catches my fancy and then I go from there.

If it looks good and feels good... I'm good.


This year the diet is definitely gonna stick!

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03/09/2020 4:46 pm

I've had the same dilemma with both guitars and amps. Beginner enough that I needed to buy gear but also inept enough to not be able to play much in the store and discern how each item was different. So, I asked the salesperson to play some stuff. They were happy to do so, didn't have any pushy sales attitudes (majority are mellow guitar dudes), and they've dealt with plenty of people in my situation by trimming the choices down to a few items. Someone helped guide me to the Katana amp this way. I learned enough about guitars to know that I don't know what I like yet so I got the basics - a used HSS Strat and a new but very inexpensive acoustic. I should be set for awhile and can wait till I'm more adept before heading back to the store.


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03/09/2020 5:50 pm

Thanks to everyone, I really appreciate the feedback and advice!

I'm excited to head to the store later this week and I'll report back on the outcome.


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03/11/2020 1:16 am
Originally Posted by: William MG

Hi Jethro

My thoughts, good luck

Jethro

And I don't think I said it, but for me, guitars are like girlfriends. I am not allowed to have girlfriends but I do like pretty little things. So for me, it all starts with what catches my fancy and then I go from there.

If it looks good and feels good... I'm good.

It took me a day or so to get a chance to watch this video. Thank you so much!! This was very helpful and I really appreciate the effort to respond in this way.


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03/13/2020 12:48 am

You're welcome. Have fun shopping.


This year the diet is definitely gonna stick!

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