I don´t like these bands at all ´cause I don´t get the point of abusing instruments and screaming out the words. Evrything sounds just too much but I think it´s better than Death Metal ´cause that sucks big time. To heavy stuff is nothing for me but I don´t mind at all if rythms are totally fu*cked up. If I did, I wouldn´t listen to Dream Theater and they are like the best band in this world for me. Very progressive but still sound very nice and when a progressive band gets airplay, than they are good. Dream Theater did it with Pull Me Under, Another Day, Take The Time, a couple songs from Falling To Infinity record, Through Her Eyes and there are a few more.