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07/16/2002 6:19 pm
I've been playing guitar for a while but im relatively new to the concept of pinch harmonics, i have the basic idea of how to make it but how should i go about practicing and advancing my pinch harmonic skills?

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07/16/2002 11:18 pm
well, try to play your scales, but instead of playing the m normally, try and play the pinch harmonic for each one.
Also, try to get the octave pinch harmonic for the scale, if you DARE!! :) It involves moving both hands!!
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07/17/2002 12:15 am
thanks alot, ill try that right away

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07/17/2002 2:14 pm
I'm curious that lalimacefolle recommended trying octave harmonics first, this involves a lot of movement for the right hand, you may find it easier to practice with harmonics equivalent to those on the 3rd, 4th and 5th fret of open strings. If you have a wah pedal stick it on full treble and give yourself lots of gain. Try and keep relaxed with it, if you tense up you'll touch the strings with your right hand too hard or too long and will fail.
I find pinches easier with upstrokes, most guitarists find downstrokes easier. When you get the hang of scales with pinch harmonicswith either down or up strokes try learning to alternate pick up and downs, your right hand will move in figure of 8 shapes. Be prepared to suck, this takes lots of practice!
You may want to try some chords with pinches too. The easiest involve straight line movements for the pinching hand and I find upstrokes far easier 'cause it's hard not to mute the strings on down strokes with the fleshy base of your thumb.
The following involve straight up movements: 1st position minor shapes on the top 3 e.g 12,12,12), first position major on the next lowest (e.g. 12,12,12) and sus 4 shapes e.g (12,12,12) on lower strings. Diagonal shapes can also be used such as the root position minor shape on the EGB strings (e.g 5,6,7) root majors with the same shape on BGD and an augmented shape on lower sets of three.
One very cool trick is to play different harmonics from a single note, you will find that you can get a whole series of major triads like this. Try the following using your left hand (i.e. natural, non-pinched harmonics) just to see what I mean: 5,4,3 (frets used), now copy this with your right hand keeping your right hand the same distance from the bridge your left was from the nut.
You can keep moving closer and closer to the bridge getting higher and higher harmonics. It's possible to transpose a lick into another key by changing where you place your right hand on the strings!
One of my favourite tricks is to play one pinch harmonic, bend the note up and then play another pinch harmonic and bend it back down.
Anyway, enough from me, that should keep you going for a while.

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07/19/2002 2:38 am
oh boy I HATE pinched harmonics, these are my one weakness, I just dont have the natural ability to play them consistently, I've practiced them solidly for days on end and gotten no better!
I also have a friend who could do it right away, and can happily pick squeal every sodding note on the fretboard!
I find them easier to play on the high strings, and on the naturally harmonic places on the fretboard 3,4,5,7,12 fret areas, but otherwise I'm stuck (no need to offer me any advice, I simply cant do it! lol, although your condolences would be appreciated!)
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07/19/2002 8:45 pm
Yep dude me awell I just cant nail piched or artificial harmonics...tips and condolences welcome.
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07/20/2002 1:28 am
Andrew, pinch harmonics and artificial harmonics are two completely different things. I hate it when people get them confused.
And for anyone who has trouble getting pinch harmonics, try moving your pick around untill you find the right spot to get them. Remember, where you have to 'pinch' to get them changes as your fretting hand moves up and down on the fretboard.
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07/20/2002 1:30 am
I just thought of something. It helps to have really high gain disortion to nail pinch harmonics. Try that, mabey it'll help.
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07/20/2002 9:05 pm
I know that they are different...I just cant nail either of them. my artificial harmonics sound like I am palm mutting and piched just dont work consistently.
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07/21/2002 1:51 am
Sorry. A lot of people just get them confused. Like I said that gets on my nerves so I usually rush to explain. I thought you were reffering to tham as the same thing.
Anyway, tell how your doing your artificial harmonics and mabey I can tell you why they soung muted.
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07/21/2002 10:07 am
The guitar you use can make a difference.

I find pinch harmonics are a pain to get on the les paul....If i want to record something with a lot of them I switch to my strat, or borrow my friends Ibanez.....they rock on pinch harmonics :)
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07/21/2002 4:57 pm
I am resting the side of my right hand lightly...very lightly on the strings. but I just cant find a place that creates artificial harrmonics.
Pinched harmonics I can do, but not every time. sometimes they dont work.
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07/21/2002 5:32 pm
I think you've got your technique a little confused. Artifical harmonics are sounded like natural harmonics, but on fretted strings instead of open ones, so, you have to sound them with your right hand instead of your left. Try playing a natural harmonic at the twelfth fret of the low E string, then, finger the first fret with your left hand, and let your right hand index finger lightly touch the string over the 13th fret and pluck the string with your thumb. That is an artifical harmonic. They can be sounded on any fretted string by touching and then plucking the string excactly one octave higher from where your fingering it. I dont know where you got that other technique from. Once I was running a Bon Jovi tune with a band and I went to do some palm muting and I was too far away from the bridge, and I got some funny noises by accident, but those aren't artificial harmonics. I just mentioned that cause it sounds like what your doing.
As for your trouble with getting pinch harmonics, there are two things.
1) Your new to doing them, so if you keep at it they'll come with time.
2) Your picking in the wrong spot. Try moving your pick around and seeing where they come best. I find they sound the best right over the rhythm pickup, put using the lead pickup and lots of high gain distortion. Remeber that where you fret the note will change where you must 'pinch' to get the harmonic.
When you get really good at pinch harmonics,(and you will if you practice them a lot) you can move your pick to different locations as you 'pinch' and get different pitches of pinch harmonics. Thats an excellent trick, and sounds awsome two!
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07/21/2002 5:36 pm
Originally posted by ^Chacron^
The guitar you use can make a difference.

I find pinch harmonics are a pain to get on the les paul....If i want to record something with a lot of them I switch to my strat, or borrow my friends Ibanez.....they rock on pinch harmonics :)


yeah which is another reason to respect Zakk Wylde, he can nail pinched harmonics seemingly at will on his les pauls!

I'm sooo jealous....
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07/22/2002 12:10 am
Zakk wylde kicks ass, but I've heard very little of him, his album book of shadows, a lot less heavy and shreddy than I had expected, is this one of his lighter offerings? Any recommendations?
Back to the subject though: harmonics. Here's another method to try. Fret with the first finger of your left, then lightly place the little finger of your left on the string 3,4 or 5 frets away (strretttchhhh). Nothing wrong with using pinch harmonics but this might help you move from one harmonic to another quickly if you combine it with pinch harmonic.
Another idea, use your 3rd finger to pluck a sting covered lightly by your 1st, voila, harmonic. Nothing to stop you pinching with your right but I've not tried it.
One more thing, having learned where to find harmonics with your right hand and knowing just how you like holding your pick try it with your left from over the top of the neck at the bridge end. combining the two you can now play unfeasibly ludicrous harmonic runs. Can't do this well yet but I'm learning.
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07/22/2002 1:16 am
I think book of shadows was his acoustic mellow album, I can recommend any black label soceity album, especially the new one (1919 eternal) for some straight up, pissed off heavy metal!
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