What amp is Andy Gurley using, in this tut


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06/24/2014 3:09 pm
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06/25/2014 6:09 pm
Originally Posted by: Whunehttp://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=14940&s_id=1022

Sounds like a basic Marshall tone (or modeled or clone); no reverb, bone dry, dark harsh upper mid range. Bark! Could be a Fender (or modeled), but it's not really round & wooby enough.

I'm going with Marshall!

Compare with examples in this tutorial for reference!

http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=20414&c_id=5&ch_id=68&s_id=1615
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06/26/2014 1:28 am
Originally Posted by: CSchlegelSounds like a basic Marshall tone (or modeled or clone); no reverb, bone dry, dark harsh upper mid range. Bark! Could be a Fender (or modeled), but it's not really round & wooby enough.

I'm going with Marshall!

Compare with examples in this tutorial for reference!

http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=20414&c_id=5&ch_id=68&s_id=1615


well sweet: it's Schlegel!
XD

the reason i ask is cuz i just got a strat
and on clean it's got nice robust barre chords and stuff
but i add distortion and everything all starts sounding tin-y
not like small; but like cheap metal

but i know all kinds of cats got and get some sweet tone with strats

I've just got a little Crate amp; so i figure that's the problem

I also figure strats aren't for just banging around on power chords either
like they're more of a surgical instrument; and subtle?

So anyways i know you're all about the strat so what's good starter amp for a strat; and what is your advice as far as FX boxes?
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06/26/2014 1:46 pm
Andy Gurley has the 3 top dog listed, plus he goes through the amp and guitar settings.
It depends on your guitar goals on what you get.. Are you going to be a closest player, garage band or the music circuit.
I have a Vox valvetronic modelling amp. I would not want it for live playing as it (for me) cumbersome to change setting. It does have good volume and tone which I'm still learning how to set up with both the amp and guitar settings.
There are tons of good amps out there and everyone has their fav.. I suggest going back through Andy Gurley's guitar and amp setting again. I saw in one video (guitar tones) where he had a Fender miked up and to my ears it sound like what one he used his fender amp setting tone lesson.
Happy hunting
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06/26/2014 1:54 pm
Originally Posted by: compart1Andy Gurley has the 3 top dog listed, plus he goes through the amp and guitar settings.
It depends on your guitar goals on what you get.. Are you going to be a closest player, garage band or the music circuit.
I have a Vox valvetronic modelling amp. I would not want it for live playing as it (for me) cumbersome to change setting. It does have good volume and tone which I'm still learning how to set up with both the amp and guitar settings.
There are tons of good amps out there and everyone has their fav.. I suggest going back through Andy Gurley's guitar and amp setting again. I saw in one video (guitar tones) where he had a Fender miked up and to my ears it sound like what one he used his fender amp setting tone lesson.
Happy hunting


lol i'mma be the "closest" player ever!
to what?
my dreamz!

but seriously:
my bad i must've missed him going through the settings
(feels dumb now)
my intended track is: closet player>garage band>music circuit

at the end of the day it's just going to be about me plugging-in at shops fiddling around with nobs and finding what I like the sound of;
but I figured some advice from people with more experience>clue would be invaluable.
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06/26/2014 1:56 pm
Originally Posted by: Whunewell sweet: it's Schlegel!
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I try not to miss any of your posts. :p
[QUOTE=Whune]
the reason i ask is cuz i just got a strat
and on clean it's got nice robust barre chords and stuff
but i add distortion and everything all starts sounding tin-y
not like small; but like cheap metal

What kind of Strat & Crate amp? What kind of distortion? Amp setting or box? What kind of tone are you aiming for?

In general, for fat, thick, mid-scooped, modern metal distortion you're going to need a humbucker (sometimes even a high-output one depending upon how much crunch you want) & a lot of pre-amp or gain-stage distortion.

If you dial in a clean tone on the amp, then click on a ton of pedal distortion, it's going to sound weak, thin & tinny.

For my lessons with a Strat & an overdrive tone I use one of the following.

Older lessons: Crate DX112 on the Flextone or 70s setting with the pre-gain on 80-100%.

Example: http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=419

More recent lessons: Reason Bambino combo with lots of pre-amp drive plus a Boss Super Overdrive pedal all knobs at about 12 o'clock.

Example: http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=973

And of course it helps to have a humbucker to get thicker, heavier overdrive tone. This vid is my Bambino & Boss pedal also, but using my fat strat project guitar. The humbucker is medium output, but with enough gain it's pretty thick!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFUxA7HxGxA

Using the humbucker, but without the overdrive pedal & turning down the gain you still get a thick tone, but it doesn't have as much gainy distortion. And that's more of a classic rock tone, which often has less distortion than people think. I discuss that in the tutorial.

http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=1251

Sometimes people use too much distortion. So you might try dialing it back a little. If your amp has a pre & post gain, then turn the pre-amp or pre-gain up all the way, then gradually turn up the post-gain or master volume.

With the amp & whatever pedal you use it's important to dial in the right equalization for what style you are playing. Modern metal (80s forward) typically has the bass high, mids low (or even on zero) & the treble high (hence, mid-scooped). Older rock typically has the mids higher in the mix in order to bark more. Some players turned the bass down because the high volume of a Marshall stack got to messy & interfered with the bass guitar. Some players turned down the treble because it was too bright & thin.

Also, it really helps to use volume! Sometimes it's just not going to sound powerful unless it's a bit loud. :) Be careful with your hearing & neighbors.

Finally, you must use the right technique. Sometimes people mute too much with their palm & it kills the tone. There is no substitute for good playing technique!

Hope that helps!
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