I'm gonna get 'this is Spinal tap' DVD, that movie is just the funniest stuff about rock that has ever been made. And you know why it's funny? Because it's so real!!
'see this sandwich? it's all hanging down, would you eat this?'
'well, you just fold it?'
'well, if you fold the bread, then it's even harder to make the ham go inside it...'
How good am I / How good you are compare to me
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Oh, the hilarity, you're right, it's so true. And you sit there going, "just fold the bloody ham!" heh, I want to buy it too - anyone who has ambition to become a rock star should be made to watch this as a warning. Right down to the end where they end up getting a market in Japan, and nowhere else.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year, it's just not that widely reported".
# 2
How about shifting this discussion away from miles per hour and onto another aspect of what makes a guitarist good - choice of notes, which is irrespective of speed.
I'd like to ask you. What guitar solo do you like best from the point of view of musical taste?
Here's some of my favourites, some well known some less so:
David Gilmour, Wish You Were Here, Money, Another Brick in the Wall
Robben Ford, Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Corrado Rustici, Sens Una Donna (Paul Young and Zuchero)
This is just for starters, to get the discussion going. Oh and have you noticed? There's no metal here.......
I'd like to ask you. What guitar solo do you like best from the point of view of musical taste?
Here's some of my favourites, some well known some less so:
David Gilmour, Wish You Were Here, Money, Another Brick in the Wall
Robben Ford, Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Corrado Rustici, Sens Una Donna (Paul Young and Zuchero)
This is just for starters, to get the discussion going. Oh and have you noticed? There's no metal here.......
# 3
I just want to say that Alexi Laiho isn't that good. Really. How many of his things are even close to Petrucci's, Malmsteen's or Vai's stage of difficulty? none.
That's a fact.
I'm not dissing his style or anything, he is one of my favourites, and he makes great songs but still.. Come on.. ;)
That's a fact.
I'm not dissing his style or anything, he is one of my favourites, and he makes great songs but still.. Come on.. ;)
"If practise makes perfect, and no one is perfect, why practise? Duh.."
# 4
cromatic 16th runns at 250 bpm? dude.. i might believe alot.. but i do not realy believe THAT..
I have the john petrucci rock discipline book at home and even HE does not move over 216 bpm - and at that speed it is hard to determine if you are REALY precise to the point.. but at 250!! no.. sorry.. try and programm it as a midifile and listen to it ... i would say that is almost impossible.. i can do 16th runs at 210 and they are still precise.. cant imagine a way to move fingers much faster than that.. maybe 230 .. but not 250 .. not even impellitery does that
I have the john petrucci rock discipline book at home and even HE does not move over 216 bpm - and at that speed it is hard to determine if you are REALY precise to the point.. but at 250!! no.. sorry.. try and programm it as a midifile and listen to it ... i would say that is almost impossible.. i can do 16th runs at 210 and they are still precise.. cant imagine a way to move fingers much faster than that.. maybe 230 .. but not 250 .. not even impellitery does that
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# 5
Once again, people, PETRUCCI IS NOT THE FASTEST GUITARIST. He is good, he rips, but he is not inhumanly fast... Here's inhuman:
http://www.chopsfromhell.com/mishoe1_ex1.rm
http://www.chopsfromhell.com/mishoe1_ex1.rm
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hehe lalimace :)
That little clip rocks. I have mishoe's fullcd(nacho-mama is my favorite song, the clip is an excerpt from it) and dang, he kicks ass. He has a pretty unique style and his sweeps are utterly clean and fast, but as you can see in the clip he uses a hairtye to mute the strings. Ha well, he's still a master guitarist. Know Rusty Cooley ? Probably you do, he's pretty fast too with insane 4note/string chops... Maybe so much people think petrucci is one of the fastest guitarist because they only know the mainstreamguitarists ?
Latz, Gul
That little clip rocks. I have mishoe's fullcd(nacho-mama is my favorite song, the clip is an excerpt from it) and dang, he kicks ass. He has a pretty unique style and his sweeps are utterly clean and fast, but as you can see in the clip he uses a hairtye to mute the strings. Ha well, he's still a master guitarist. Know Rusty Cooley ? Probably you do, he's pretty fast too with insane 4note/string chops... Maybe so much people think petrucci is one of the fastest guitarist because they only know the mainstreamguitarists ?
Latz, Gul
# 8
Have you got the Rock Discipline by John Petrucci? On the cd which comes with the notebook (or if you have the video you can hear it from the video of course, duh :) ) he plays some chromatic stuff at the speed of 216 or something, and he screws up. No big deal, and I assume that he could play faster but I don't get the point why he screws up in that kind of run.
"If practise makes perfect, and no one is perfect, why practise? Duh.."
# 9
he screwed up to set an example ofcourse... it's not that he cant make it to 216, or maybe he really can't, but it certainly wasn't to say that he couldn't go over 216. But who cares ? Playing guitar is a musical thing, not a mathematical thing. It's very dumb imho to calculate that stuff because what's the use ? If some one sais: I can play 16th chromatics at 250bpm, that doesn't impress me at all. On the other hand if some one plays something with heart and soul but not quiet as fast i'll give him more credits than the mathematical player.
Ps. this doesn't mean I play without a metronome or something. It's a great tool to help you develop your speed, but I don't think you should exagerate !
Ps. this doesn't mean I play without a metronome or something. It's a great tool to help you develop your speed, but I don't think you should exagerate !
# 10
Originally posted by Gulder
If some one sais: I can play 16th chromatics at 250bpm, that doesn't impress me at all. On the other hand if some one plays something with heart and soul but not quiet as fast i'll give him more credits than the mathematical player.
Amen brotha'.
# 11
This is a great discussion......just to clarify a response to my last post.......I was not dissin metal......I love Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen et al.....the point was that this thread was not so much a case of "How Good Are You / Me" but more a case of "How Fast Are You / Me". Indeed most of the posts since then have perpetuated the latter. However keep it up guys it makes great, if somewhat amusing, reading.
# 12
How fast is the end solo on November Rain by Guns n Roses, i mean at its fastest. I can can play it, its the fastest thing ive found so far.
# 13
Slash has a great tone, awesome looks, killer licks, and he is pretty fast, but he is far from the fastest dude, even in november rain!
# 14
actual, my only real guitarhero is Jason Becker,
not only for his style and amazing technique,
because there are incredible many guitarist out
there, and there are so little that differences
successful and not. But Jason had the spirit,
and what he did after he got sick, that amazes
me... that he won't give up.. that he showed
the world that he could really be creative and
make something amazing even if he sat in a
wheelchair...
i want to play like jason,
but i don't want to be a copy...
it's a paradoks...
what do u think should decide if u're good
or not?? Speed and technique?? feeling??
creativity?? following/breaking 'rules'?? etc..
u really can't decide.. i can't.. i only know...
u can allways become better.. there's never an end...
not only for his style and amazing technique,
because there are incredible many guitarist out
there, and there are so little that differences
successful and not. But Jason had the spirit,
and what he did after he got sick, that amazes
me... that he won't give up.. that he showed
the world that he could really be creative and
make something amazing even if he sat in a
wheelchair...
i want to play like jason,
but i don't want to be a copy...
it's a paradoks...
what do u think should decide if u're good
or not?? Speed and technique?? feeling??
creativity?? following/breaking 'rules'?? etc..
u really can't decide.. i can't.. i only know...
u can allways become better.. there's never an end...
S. G. Skaaren
aka Acron(GW)
aka Acron(GW)
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No, I use a thimble, on the pinky, it sounds weird, but it's totally the biggest tune I've ever tried to play, Steve VAI is a walk in the park compared to that...
# 18
The tab is in .pdf format, read by acrobat reader, it's a freeware. I don't know if there's another tab made on the web.
Ron THAL is great, if you like him, listen to Freak Kitchen, their guitarist is awesome too (and he has played on Ron's latest album) I've written a trick in ron's style:
http://www.guitartricks.com/2000/trick.php?trick_id=3659
By the way, those aren't artificial harmonics, but actual notes, just as if you were playing with a slide, but really high , over the pickups for example, except you wear the slide on your pinkie, since it's a thimble.
Ron THAL is great, if you like him, listen to Freak Kitchen, their guitarist is awesome too (and he has played on Ron's latest album) I've written a trick in ron's style:
http://www.guitartricks.com/2000/trick.php?trick_id=3659
By the way, those aren't artificial harmonics, but actual notes, just as if you were playing with a slide, but really high , over the pickups for example, except you wear the slide on your pinkie, since it's a thimble.
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