Help!!! Tricky fingerwork.....


BarryS
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07/10/2000 6:14 am
I'm trying to learn the Beatles song across the universe and it contains this chord which I am having much difficulty playing:

eadgbE
2x422

How do you strum that without playing the A string? Are you supposed to use your thumb on the low E string? Also, can anyone recommend a good fingering? I find it difficult to reach the 4th fret whilst keeping two fingers on the 2nd. Any help will be truly appreciated.
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07/10/2000 7:55 pm
Well, i'm gonna try to tab this out, hope it looks right..

<pre>
1 3 4 1 1 x
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2|x|x|x|x|x| |
| | | | | | |
| |x|x| | | |
| | | | | | |

</pre>

that really looks like crap but here is the explanation... barre the 2nd fret with you first finger.. use your pinky to fret the Gb note at 4th fret 4th string, then use your ring finger (3rd) to lightly mute the Db on the 5th string... this is similar to playing a full Gb barre chord, just release the pressure on your ring finger so that the string is muted...
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07/11/2000 1:02 am
Okay, now I'm really confused. Are we talking about the same chord? Where did that 13411x come from?? What did you mean tab it out? That doesn't look like any tab I've ever seen.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I'll provide a link to the tab that I'm using. You'll see at the very top of the page it has the intro to the song, which contains the chord 2x422.

http://members.tripod.com/~jpgr_beatles/tabs/files/AcrossTheUniverse.txt

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07/11/2000 2:10 pm
i think that what fretmeister is showing with the 13411x is finger positions - which fingers go on which strings. 1 means index, 3 is ring, 4 pinky.

Therefore, your first finger barres the 2 fret, the ring mutes the A string and the pinky frets the fourth fret.

The diagram below it shows how the fretboard will look with your fingers on it.

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07/13/2000 3:21 am
Okay, I believe I understand. Please explain barring though. This is one thing that I'm unclear on. Is that what bar chords are? (Barre chords or bar chords? I've seen it both ways. Are they the same thing?)

You use 1 finger to hold down more than one string? Is this correct?
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08/08/2000 9:41 am
yep u would use one finger to bar all the strings (usually) at a certain fret and the remaining fingers on the single ones below that fret
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08/08/2000 11:51 am
Barre (or bar - barre is the correct spelling)chords essentially move the nut to another position on the neck, allowing use of the same chord form to produce other chords at different positions on the fretboard. You "barre" all 6 strings or sometimes fewer (or 7 for you 7 string users) with your index finger so that all the strings all pressed to the fretboard. You then make the chord form with your other fingers. By moving your fret hand up and down the fretboard, you create different chords. There are few limits to the types of barre chords you can create (other than the elasticity of your finger joints). Here are some of the most popular barre chord forms to get you started.

Use index finger to barre fretboard and create the chord form with other fingers.
Notice how in the root chord form (E) the nut is performing the barre function.

Some E chord form barre chords:

----E--F--G--A--B--C---D---E (CHORD NAMES)

E---0--1--3--5--7--8--10--12
B---0--1--3--5--7--8--10--12
G---1--2--4--6--8--9--11--13
D---2--3--5--7--9-10--12--14
A---2--3--5--7--9-10--12--14
E---0--1--3--5--7--8--10--12


In the E chord form, the note on the low E string being barred ID's the chord name.

Some A chord form barre chords.

This is actually a double barre chord. E.G. for a B chord, barre A D G B E strings on the second fret with your index finger and barre the B G D strings on the 4th fret with your ring finger. This one is a little tricky to learn since you have to curl the bottom of your ring finger off the high E string. For a beginner I recommend that you dont' strum the high E until you can perfect this technique.

A--B--C--D (CHORD NAMES)

0--2--3--5
2--4--5--7
2--4--5--7
2--4--5--7
0--2--3--5
x--x--x--x

In the A chord form, the root note is on the A string and signifies the chord name as you move your hand along the fretboard.

Some other chord forms that translate into barre chords easily are:

Am---Em---A7---E7
-0----0----0----0
-1----0----2----0
-2----0----0----1
-2----2----2----0
-0----2----0----2
-x----0----x----0

This should give you a good start in learning and applying barre chords to your playing.

Had to edit this a few times to get it to look decent.


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08/08/2000 1:49 pm
when i started to play guitar, the first thing that gave me trouble was barre (or bar) chords. i thought i would never get barre chords down. but now i play barre chords without even thinking about it. all it takes is time and practice.

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08/10/2000 2:40 am
barre chords are a PAIN to learn... i had been playing a good 2 years and i never really learned barre chords (why? i know not) and they were even tough for me, being a decently experienced guitar player to learn. but the key is definately practice... everything seems to come back to that, eh?
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