I can't believe you actually answered my post, thanks a lot. What I meant is, that on the chord chart I think you should just replace the I,M,R,P with X, O, 1, 2, 3, 4. You've taught us that 1 is index, 2 is middle, etc. We really catch on faster than you think, we know the numbered finger on the fret placement by the picture. And it's a lot easier to read tab music when all you know is X, O, 1, 2, 3, 4. Just a thought...fighting with F major, Ben