How to move forward.


Julianald1968
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01/31/2011 2:00 pm
Hi All, I am a newbie to this WONDERFUL guitar thing as well, strange being 42 and all, but age is nothing. So they say, when it comes to learning a new skill. I am learning on a basic acoustic and have started from the beginning in the lessons. I have been at it with GT for a couple of weeks now and am enjoying it a lot, and my callouses on my fingers are getting there nicely too. I am slowly getting a hang of the basic chords etc on the first few of Christopher's lessons. Which are awesome, I must say. I am obviously not perfect at them yet, but getting there.

My question is, should I continue on with these first chords etc, until I have them down perfect, and not move on to the next lessons until I am perfect at them, or should I move on a little, and mix it up a bit with some new lessons, and go back and forth between them occasionally. Its just hard not having anyone to say, yes you should move on, ok go back and practice more.

I have also had a few people say that its good to get a few basic tabs of songs and learn them as well. This will give you not only the skill to read tabs, but the confidence to start and play the odd song here and there. What do you all think. Let me know your thoughts as I am really enthusiastic about my new hobby and want to have the best chance of learning it correctly.

Cheers Julian.
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01/31/2011 5:29 pm
Julian, hi and welcome to the site! You're describing a common dilemma. Basically, you should feel free to move forward and work on other stuff even if you haven't perfected certain skills like a particular chord or tricky chord change.

Few rules to guide you though with your practice:

1) Practice/play at a speed so that you hardly ever make a mistake. If you are making lots of mistakes, then keep slowing it down until you don't. If you can't play a chord in time at all because you can't get the fingering right fast enough, then don't worry about making music with that chord, work on just the correct fingering and getting the chord to play cleanly first. When you can do that, then move on to playing it with rhythm and in time.

2) Don't build on mistakes. If you're going to learn a song, that has a new fingerpicking pattern AND a chord that you have a lot of trouble playing, don't try to combine all that together and work it all out at once. Recognize that knowing the chord is a prerequisite to learning that song, and master it first, then learn the fingerpicking pattern, then put it all together. Divide and conquer will move you ahead the quickest.

Keep in mind it takes time for new skills to sink in. So feel free to work on several different lessons in a practice session, rather than just spending an hour trying to learn one chord. If you practice something very slowly and cleanly for 15 minutes, then come back to it a day later, you'll probably notice a marked improvement. Sometimes your brain gets bored with too much repetition, which is why you can actually start playing something worse than you were a few minutes ago if you sit with the same task for too long.

Good Luck!
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Julianald1968
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02/01/2011 6:37 pm
Thanks for the advise. I will do as you suggested. Yes, i am finding some chords are hard to get the fingers in place with on time, or quick enough. As you say, it takes time and patience to get it. So thats what I will do. But In the mean time I will move forward, and come back to it as needed.

Cheers.

Julian
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02/01/2011 8:56 pm
Yes I have to agree with Slipin Lizard, you have to keep your mind entertained and not get bogged down by the same thing over and over again, but at the same time you should focus on learning the fingering before the speed. I'm very new to guitar tricks as well but I always remember what Christopher says in his lessons, First learn how to get your fingers in the right spot, and then worry about speed. I've played on and off for a few years and I have come to realize that if you just focus on getting your fingers in the right spot, the speed will come with it! So just focus on 1 thing, fingering, and the rest will fall into line! Keep up the great work and most importantly...ENJOY! :)
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09/22/2011 8:59 am
Originally Posted by: smoneill87[U]Yes I have to agree with Slipin Lizard, you have to keep your mind entertained and not get bogged down by the same thing over and over again, but at the same time you should focus on learning the fingering before the speed. I'm very new to guitar tricks as well but I always remember what Christopher says in his lessons, First learn to play guitar get your fingers in the right spot, and then worry about speed. I've played on and off for a few years and I have come to realize that if you just focus on getting your fingers in the right spot, the speed will come with it! So just focus on 1 thing, fingering, and the rest will fall into line! Keep up the great work and most importantly...ENJOY! :)[/U]

I find this true. Before I took lessons, I tried to learn just by myself. I worry about speed to much when shifting to a different chord. But one I learned when I was already taking proper lessons, you need to concentrate first if you place your fingers on the right spot. Being fast wouldn't matter if you are pressing it in the wrong fret, it won't even sound correct.
I wish they'd had electric guitars in cotton fields back in the good old days. A whole lot of things would've been straightened out. - Jimi Hendrix
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09/22/2011 1:09 pm
I was wondering about this myself but I am only on GT1 now and have had friends try to give me tips and books but at this stage I refused them politely to stick with the GT course.

Currently I have very sore fingers and will give it a rest for a day or two. I have found that due to my age (50) and never having done anything with my fingers that require more than a moderate level of dexterity it will take plenty of time to get them working properly. I see an improvement each time I pick up my guitar which is in line with the advice I have read on the learning subject.
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09/29/2011 3:09 am
Originally Posted by: Julianald1968Hi All, I am a newbie to this WONDERFUL guitar thing as well, strange being 42 and all, but age is nothing. So they say, when it comes to learning a new skill. I am learning on a basic acoustic and have started from the beginning in the lessons. I have been at it with GT for a couple of weeks now and am enjoying it a lot, and my callouses on my fingers are getting there nicely too. I am slowly getting a hang of the basic chords etc on the first few of Christopher's lessons. Which are awesome, I must say. I am obviously not perfect at them yet, but getting there.

My question is, should I continue on with these first chords etc, until I have them down perfect, and not move on to the next lessons until I am perfect at them, or should I move on a little, and mix it up a bit with some new lessons, and go back and forth between them occasionally. Its just hard not having anyone to say, yes you should move on, ok go back and practice more.

I have also had a few people say that its good to get a few basic tabs of songs and learn them as well. This will give you not only the skill to read tabs, but the confidence to start and play the odd song here and there. What do you all think. Let me know your thoughts as I am really enthusiastic about my new hobby and want to have the best chance of learning it correctly.

Cheers Julian.


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