Zeppelin is 17.

As long as people are speaking in demonstrative adjictives- "they, those, them..." this will never be solved. I pondered this earlier today, especially Bardsley's post, and my thoughts came to this:
Trying to establish who caused this is pointless. People need to start worrying about "how do [u]we[/u] fix this?"

The bottom line is two current enemies are going to have to share a small peice of land. It's been done before, it can be done again.