Yeah when you mention the piano it is easier to play the guitar in reference to reading music, and knowing wat a chord is supposed to sound like. I guess what I was meaning is mre on the lines of.. I like to play with the piano, not just always play the exact notes listed, so for the guitar, all those trills, hammerons, sliding and basically the tricks to add extra flavor to it all is what I'm struggling with.. I will start at the beginning like you said though. I was just trying to be an impatient adult that dislikes a 4 year old doing better than me :P I still would like to find a possible dvd or something of that nature though.. easier for me to play/rewind, etc... and yeah its ok to shorten my name squid :P haha.. thanks for your service as well brother