perplexed with Intervals

Hey guys/gals, I'm at a little confusion on the Guitar Fundamentals 2 section titled "intervals for beginners". I get and understand/memorized the whole notion of Whole step/Half step and each fret label down to 12 ( octave) and all that, but I'm a little stumped on lesson 3 regarding the "fifths" we cant see.

I can comprehend/see the single E string fifth on the first image,but I dont understand the jumping over a string and still get fifth on the 2nd and 3rd example images.

For example, from A-E notes on the 2nd image, I counted a total of 6 half steps (sharp 4th/flat fifth?), and from the fret chart (lesson 1), it states 7 half steps is a fifth. i'm perplexed. Am I suppose to count that open E string as well? I think I'm missing something here. same with 3rd image. Are the strings suppose to be counted?


I dont know how to properly post links on here but here's the link to supplement my question/s.

http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=10663&c_id=2&ch_id=10&s_id=362

Any form of help/guidance would be greatly and humbly appreciated, thanks and happy holidays everyone!



-Cam

Originally Posted by: frontierAk
I can comprehend/see the single E string fifth on the first image,but I dont understand the jumping over a string and still get fifth on the 2nd and 3rd example images.
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Each image shows exactly the same pitches, but in different fretboard locations. This is a crucial concept that is particular to learning music on the guitar. This is because unlike some instruments (such as the piano), on the guitar you can play the same note in more than one place.
[QUOTE=frontierAk]
For example, from A-E notes on the 2nd image, I counted a total of 6 half steps (sharp 4th/flat fifth?) ...

Use this as your standard: one string up and five frets back. That will get you the same note on the low E, A, D & G strings. Since those strings are standard tuned at the 5th fret, that is where the notes will start to repeat themselves.

So, from the note E on the E string (12th fret), go one string up (over to the A string) and five frets back (7th fret). That is the same note E on both strings.

Do it again from the 7th fret of the A string. One string over to the D string, 5 frets back to the 2nd fret. Same note E.

Make sense? :)

The G to B string jump is 4 frets. So any given note on the G string is duplicated on one string up (on the B string) and 4 frets back. Then back to 5 frets for the B string to high E string.

Hope that helps. Ask more if necessary.

Originally Posted by: CSchlegelEach image shows exactly the same pitches, but in different fretboard locations. This is a crucial concept that is particular to learning music on the guitar. This is because unlike some instruments (such as the piano), on the guitar you can play the same note in more than one place.

Use this as your standard: one string up and five frets back. That will get you the same note on the low E, A, D & G strings. Since those strings are standard tuned at the 5th fret, that is where the notes will start to repeat themselves.

So, from the note E on the E string (12th fret), go one string up (over to the A string) and five frets back (7th fret). That is the same note E on both strings.

Do it again from the 7th fret of the A string. One string over to the D string, 5 frets back to the 2nd fret. Same note E.

Make sense? :)

The G to B string jump is 4 frets. So any given note on the G string is duplicated on one string up (on the B string) and 4 frets back. Then back to 5 frets for the B string to high E string.

Hope that helps. Ask more if necessary.

Props man! you cleared that up for me big time! for a minute I had to draw out what you were saying ( I drew a fret board and wrote in the notes using your standard method, low E to G jump a string and 5 frets back and G to B string 4 frets back and B to high e 5 frets back).

I landed back on the same notes from the octave back up to the first fret on the board.

That really did the trick for me to understand this whole issue I had.

Now I definately feel comfortable moving on to the next lesson.

now one quick question, out of my drawing using the standard method, I'm finding the notes are repeating after the fifth fret. Am I correct in that?

Thanks CSchlegel!


-Cam

Originally Posted by: frontierAkyou cleared that up for me big time![/quote]
Good deal. :)
[QUOTE=frontierAk]
now one quick question, out of my drawing using the standard method, I'm finding the notes are repeating after the fifth fret. Am I correct in that?

Yes, except when you cross from the G to B strings. Then the notes will repeat after the 4th fret. Those two strings are tuned 4 frets apart.

This lesson has a fretboard diagram showing all the note names as letters:

http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=4469