Dissonant chords


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05/25/2008 9:34 pm
Hi, I just want to know some dissonant sounding chord progressions. I know it's a hit or a miss kinda thing as one wrong note and a dissonant progression can even sound sour. Any help and advice would be appreciated
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05/26/2008 4:51 am
Make up some random chord shape and play it. Chances are it's dissonant.

If it's not, pick one of the notes and move it a fret up or down.
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05/26/2008 12:45 pm
hmmmm simple indeed.
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05/26/2008 3:44 pm
I use a lot of tight dissonance in my playing, and it helps to know theory. I make my dissonant chords by taking notes that are close and playing them. For instance, take a C chord shape, and slide it up two frets, don't barre. That turns your notes into E, D, F#, G, D, E. Very dissonant, very nice, I think.
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05/27/2008 2:12 am
check out dillinger escape plan or psyopus tabs....



heres the basic dissonant chord shape shape....


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05/27/2008 2:31 am
That's there's a minor third.

I'm pretty sure that's Consonant.
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05/27/2008 5:18 am
well if you look at fundamentals and basic tonal theory, a minor 3rd is "dissonant", hence the slight sense of displeasure or unhapiness we find in it. but yea, but typical standards i don't think a minor 3rd would be a dissonant interval. the flat 5th, minor 2nd and major 7th are the most dissonant tones.

getting a dissonant chord can be as simple as implimenting these notes or just using diminished (b5) or augmented (+5) intervals are the easiest ways to create dissonance.

cool chords are:

fully diminished (1, b3, b5, b7)
french 6th (1, 3, b5, 7)
minor chord with a major 7th (1, b3, 5, maj7)
dominant 7 #9 (1, 3, 5, 7, #9)

^^^last one is quite dissonant because the #9 is only a half step away from the 3rd of the chord, creating the most dissonance. you might find it displeasurable but it's dissonant nonetheless.

these might be hard to understand if you don't understand how to build chords. i'm basing these numbers off the notes of a major scale. so, a 3 would be the 3rd note of the major scale, etc. after 8 (the octave) we keep on going to build "extended chords" like we see in jazz. so, a 9 is really a 2, an 11 is a 3, etc. just minus 8 from the higher number and viola. it's good to just remember that a 13 means a 6, and so on.
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05/30/2008 7:58 am
OOPS!

lol i feel retarded.

i meant,

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05/30/2008 7:07 pm
Yeah, that sounds dissonant. =D
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05/30/2008 9:27 pm
sweeeeeeeet
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05/30/2008 11:01 pm
---2---
---1---

Or slid anywhere. Tritone. =D
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06/05/2008 2:26 pm
Originally Posted by: ZakJenkins---2---
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Or slid anywhere. Tritone. =D


what are you talking about? do you even know what a tritone is? TRI(three)TONE.

a tritone is a minor b5, hence making two equally-spaced minor 3rds. i mean, how could you even think that a major 3rd (that you have indicated in your tab) sounds dissonant? its a freaking major 3rd@! what's next, the perfect 5th is dissonant also?!
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06/05/2008 7:32 pm
Umm. Reread my tab.

1st fret E string
2nd fret A string.

That's a Diminished 5th, or a Tritone, (Which is derived from the fact that it's the interval made 3 whole steps from the root. Diatonic to Lydian and Locrian modes, though in Lydian, it's more correctly named as an Augmented 4th, but they're enharmonic.)

No question about it. Dissonant.

And, considering you have a high standard for music terms... There's no such thing as a minor b5. Or a Minor 5th for that matter. Perfect, Augmented, or Diminished (Tritone).
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