Cause We've ended as Lovers- ala Jeff Beck


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03/05/2008 6:29 pm
I have been messing around with the Stevie Wonder tune, Cause we've ended as lovers, but done as Beck did it on the Blow by Blow album.

I don't even deserve to clean Beck's boots with my tongue let alone do this tune, but it's a great learning experience.
I didn't really try and copy any of beck's licks, I just let er rip, but I have been listening to this tune for 30 years so there's bound to be some stolen ideas.

Hope someone digs this style of guitar instrumental.
It's just a learning experience, but let me know if something sucks reall bad and I'll fix it.

Right click and choose "Save as"
Play in your favorite mp3 player.
http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/files/CauseWeveEndedAsLovers.mp3


Tone chain:
Ibanez JS1200CA guitar -> Tube preamp -> Soundcard line in -> Guitar Rig 3 -> Mixcraft 4
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03/06/2008 2:00 am
I didn't really listen to the whole track as I was on the way out the door after it downloaded, and also I haven't heard the original song so I don't know what to compare it with.. but I did feel that there was a distinct lack of reverb for my liking.. may be that is how it is meant to be.. I dunno. I've never really wanted to play "like" someone else as such.. never really wanted to learn other people's songs as such.. so I would have definitely played that with more reverb, even if the original song didn't have any reverb.

Hopefully someone who knows what the original sounds like will give you some feedback from that angle.
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03/06/2008 2:44 am
Reverb would be a personal choice of the player.

I don't really use reverb, mostly just delays.
There's lots of delay on the guitar for a slow tune like this.
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03/06/2008 3:40 am
I didn't hear any delay.. so I will have to wait till I get home from work to listen to it through all the way.. sorry..
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03/06/2008 12:55 pm
You can really hear the delay on a note that stops. You hear a bunch of trails after the note.

I fixed the intro and uploaded a new version

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http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/files/CauseWeveEndedAsLovers.mp3
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03/06/2008 1:48 pm
when I saw you are covering this song, I HAD to stop everything and click on your link!

WoW! You've really put your stamp on this 'standard' . Some of the phrasing are really interesting. I really appreciate that you didn't play it note for note.

The first few lines I thought came on a little too harsh, guess 20 years of listening to Mr. Beck's volume swell on that part had brain-washed me ;) hahah


Great piece of playing!

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03/06/2008 5:13 pm
yeah, you are right.
I should have eased into it a little more dynamically.

It was raining all day a couple days ago when I did this, so I sat inside and goofed around with this tune.

It's nice out now and I'm outside doing crap.
I'll mess with it some more and see if I can come up with some better stuff.
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03/09/2008 5:43 am
One of my favourite instrumentals, been listening to it for many years. Nobody does it like Jeff, although i really like Roy Buchanan's version also.
I'm not qualified to comment on the technical merits of your piece, but i know what i like and i think you did a very nice rendition....especially the part between 3:00 - 3:35.....wow.
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03/09/2008 6:54 pm
Nice chops! I always ask this question when I hear a really nice tone like that. Do you mic your amp? Or do you record direct into a Computer? If you mic your amp what kind of mic do you use? Hope I am not prying to much.
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03/09/2008 10:36 pm
Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.

The guitar goes into a Stereo all tube pre amp, then right into the computer.
I run stereo into the computer sound card and Guitar rig is all stereo also.

Guitar Rig 3 is doing all the tones.

The pre amp gives your guitar a nice warm starting tone, but it's very clean.
All the delays distortion and effects come from guitar rig and it can do hundreds of different tones.

I have been using it since Guitar Rig 1.

Here's the link to Guitar Rig 3
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=guitarrig3se&L=1

I have a bunch of hand made Tube amps, but it is way easier to record without mics and all the things that go with that whole situation.

see ya
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03/10/2008 12:34 am
Thanks for the feedback. I am using Amplitube2 and The StealthPlug or I can use my GNX4. I really like the quality of that sound. Just wondering if its the preamp or guitarrig doing all the extra work? Could also be me needing to learn more about mixing my sound.... I have noticed that the guitar I use makes a big difference. Each guitar has a unique sound when recorded on the computer. I never would have thought that but it does. Speaking of Amps I just got the new Blackheart BH5H tube amp. I love it. Sorry did not mean to take over your thread. Once again nice playing and thanks again for the info. :)
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