where can i find a huge chord list..?


Van1lla_Fac3
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01/05/2008 1:32 am
including

f#m7(b5)
bm7(b5)
bm9
e9
dm7
and a bunch of flats..
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01/05/2008 8:02 am
hehe..

I remember that daunting feeling.. ahhh jazz.. :cool:

Well there's that www.chordfind.com site that I mentioned yesterday to start with.. that will help with a lot of them, with the added bonus of being able to find different fingerings for the same chord.

Also you will want to learn about "Chord Construction" to understand what it is you are playing when you play a f#m7(b5) for example. It's really quite straightforward once you understand how chords are constructed. You're usually just adding notes to the standard 1-3-5 chord, and in some cases you are replacing.. or both.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure the F#min7(b5) would be represented as 1-b3-b5-b7. 1 being the note F#, b3 being a minor 3rd interval from 1, and so on.. Normally you wouldn't touch the 1 and the 5.. but this is jazz afterall.. :)


Formula
1-b3-b5-b7

F# Chromatic Scale
1 - F#
b2 - G
2 - G#
b3 - A
3 - A#
4 - B
b5 - C
5 - C#
b6 - D
6 - D#
b7 - E
7 - F

F#m7(b5)
1 - F#
b3 - A
b5 - C
b7 - E


These are the notes that need to be played for the F#m7(b5), with the F# played first and also with the F# being the lowest/bass note.

I'm 99% sure anyway.. lol
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01/05/2008 9:15 am
Take a look at 'LooknoHands' here. The site has a chord generator which is pretty good, although they don't always suggest fingerings that I'd recommend.

A good resource though...

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01/05/2008 7:18 pm
thanks!
i'm finding most of them but now there are chords like..
D# with a little degree symobol after the sharp..?

and what's the difference between f#m7(b5) and f#m7?
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01/05/2008 7:26 pm
oh yea.. and are the flats on chord find? are they just the b?
i need to know Aflat7 and Aflat9
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01/06/2008 9:50 am
Originally Posted by: Van1lla_Fac3thanks!
i'm finding most of them but now there are chords like..
D# with a little degree symobol after the sharp..?

and what's the difference between f#m7(b5) and f#m7?[/QUOTE]

[quote=Van1lla_Fac3]oh yea.. and are the flats on chord find? are they just the b?
i need to know Aflat7 and Aflat9


Like I explained in my big post above, the difference between the f#m7(b5) and f#m7 is the (b5). The flats are the b yes. When you see a number next to a chord, it is talking about the extension of the basic chord. So all the basic Major chords are made up of 3 notes. The easiest way to represent these 3 notes is with roman numerals but since the sheet music you are looking at is using numbers I've used that notation instead.

The basic F# Major chord is 1-3-5. Looking at the chart I did above, you can see that these 3 notes are F#-A#-C#. If you play those notes, in that order, you will be playing the F# Major triad/chord. Broken down even further, the "1" is the root note, the letter "F#". The "3" is the note that defines whether the chord is a Major or minor chord. The 5th one is just a "perfect" 5th interval away from the root note..

As I said in my original post, the 1 never changes which note it is because changing this note means you are playing a different letter chord. If you move the 3 down into the flat position (one half-step/semi-tone) lower, you make it a minor chord. So we could write that as 1-b3-5. If 1 = F#, then we now have the formula for F#min. As before, 1-3-5 = F#-A#-C#.. so if we move the 3 down a semi-tone we get F#-A-C# which are the 3 notes required to play F#min.

Now.. it's F#min7.. the 7 is an "extension" of the F#min chord. What we do is simply add a 7th but because it's a F#min7th, we will use the flatted 7th (otherwise known as the minor 7th interval [from the root]..) from the F# Chromatic scale chart above. Now we have four different notes in our chord.. 1-b3-5-b7 which is F#-A-C#-E. These are the notes required to play F#min7...

Now for the last bit.. the (b5) on the end means that we need to "replace" the 5 with a b5. So now we have 1-b3-b5-b7. Still 4 notes, still an F# chord, still a minor chord, still a 7th chord.. only now the chord becomes a flat-5 chord, which are pretty unusual outside of jazz and chamber music etc. So now the notes we have are F#-A-C-E. These are the 4 notes required to play the F#min7(b5) chord.

That is how the chord is constructed...


10 11 12 13
|--1--|-----|-----|
|--1--|--2--|-----|
|--1--|-----|-----|
|--1--|--3--|-----|
|--1--|-----|-----|
X-----|-----|-----|


Don't play the bottom-E at all and try not to play the top-E that much.. kinda flick it now and then.. the main strings you want to be hitting are the 4 in the middle. You could play it in other places on the neck but this one sounds nice to me. If you can find a better F#min7 shape and just find the 5th note in the F# Major scale and move it down one fret, you're in business. Just don't play the 5th as well as the flatted-5th.. that kinda ruins the chord :)
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