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looneytunes
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11/27/2007 11:57 am
Originally Posted by: BrokenJerachuck berry wrote johnny b goode right?its a good song i think jerry lee lewis did a version and jimmy hendrix too. i dont listen to that kind of rock much but i know i owe those guys alot. jimmy hendrix is the father of heavy metal after all.

the smoking ban around where i live has reached paranoia and consperacy heights. you cant smoke in your car with a child in there you cant smoke in any public places, and the epa declared ciggerettte smoke a type 4 enviromental hazard so you cant even smoke in your home. i have always smoked out side cause i dont want that stuff in my guitar or amp or tv or computer. but i think they should let the owners of certain types of bussiness decide if they want to allow smoking for them selves.

our schools dont even have enough money to teach kids the basics standards in reading writing math history and science, so to me teaching prayer is not the best plan right now. the ten command ment we some of the oldest laws (only hammerobi beat them SP?) concerning the laws essental for the survival of a civiliation i think its madness not to have them in court.

and the religion is always fun to debate with someone who has an open mind and isnt afraid to atleast consider some one else point of view.


Yes, Chuck Berry wrote the lyrics and performed Johnny B. Goode. It's a classic. You really should learn to play it. It's fun and pretty simple and for some reason, people get very excited when they hear it. But, it doesn't sound right unless you are playing in with an electric guitar with the volume up.

The smoking ban is just one of stupid things the minority has instilled on the majority. And it is one of the most ridiculous, expensive and waste of our official’s time. Again I am not a smoker, but I don’t think the government needs to get involved in our personal lives. If you don’t like smoking in that restaurant go to one that doesn’t allow it. Businesses should be able to run the way the owners wish. I realize there are necessary laws that are there to protect the people. This is not one of them.

You are wrong about not having enough money to run the schools. What we spend per year per student ($20,000 +) is almost 4 times the money spent per student per year in private schools ($3,000). And the students from private schools test out by far higher than those in public schools (this is based upon averages).The money is wasted as it is with anything the government gets involved with. We spend more and educated less. Name one thing, other than the military, that has proven to be successful that the government has control. Even the Postal Service is a disaster!

You said that religion shouldn’t be taught in our schools. Your reasoning was financial. Others feel the same way, but they feel Christianity shouldn’t be taught in schools. I am not saying any religion should be talk in schools, but right and wrong should be! However, I don’t think the government should be the one to determine what is right and wrong. The parents should have the means to choose which school their children should attend. If we are not going to teach our children right from wrong in the our schools, at home, and they don’t attend any church, and Hollywood and the media certainly don’t teach it, so where do they our kids learn what is right and what is wrong? After they are arrested?

You are correct that the Ten Commandments are the oldest laws recorded. These are the laws (The Laws of Moses) that our court system was based. As for a matter of history, if not for any other reason, the Ten Commandments should proudly be posted in every courthouse, courthouse lawn, school, and very public facility in the US. Here again a small minority of people are having our history, the foundation of our land, removed from the courts, history books, currency, schools, libraries, everywhere until there is no sign of God or our heritage left.

God is being removed as to not offend anyone. They are offending me! If they are so offended, then why stay or even come to such a terrible place? Because the United States of America is the greatest country in the world and everyone wants to come here to fulfill there hopes and dreams. The United States is the land of opportunity. That is fine. Let them come (legally) and bring their heritage with them, but don’t take away ours! Check out www.benstein.com

You mentioned you like to debate religion. Well, I don’t! Everyone has their own opinion on politics and religion and there is no changing anybody’s mind. It’s a useless cause. As I said before; until someone is confronted with a spiritual experience, their thoughts will not change.

Thanks! It was sort of fun, but a waste of time.
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Kevin Taylor
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11/27/2007 2:11 pm
Well..I have to disagree with you on the smoking ban.
I got hooked on nicotine by the time I was 5 years old because my mother would smoke around me all day long. Today, that would be considered child abuse.

When I think back..I used to smoke a pack a day about 20 years ago, but even then I couldn't handle the amount of smoke that was drifting around in public places.
You'd go into a store and the clerks would be smoking at the counter..in college, students smoked in class...even in doctors offices you had to sit in a haze of smoke.
When I was working retail, we used to have customers who'd smoke stinky cigars at the counter and butt them out on the floor of the store. When I was out of work and had to go to UIC, you could hardly see the other side of the room because every second person was smoking. And you had no choice but to go there if you wanted unemployment insurance. I used to think how horrible it must have been for pregnant women or people with health problems to be forced to sit in that haze of smoke for 3 hours.

I'm glad a smoking ban has been instituted now. The only thing that bothers me now is how disguntingly dirty and inconsiderate smokers still insist on being...throwing their used butts outside the doors of all the establishments and blowing smoke in peoples faces as they walk by them at the front doors.
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looneytunes
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11/27/2007 3:10 pm
Originally Posted by: Kevin TaylorWell..I have to disagree with you on the smoking ban.
I got hooked on nicotine by the time I was 5 years old because my mother would smoke around me all day long. Today, that would be considered child abuse.

When I think back..I used to smoke a pack a day about 20 years ago, but even then I couldn't handle the amount of smoke that was drifting around in public places.
You'd go into a store and the clerks would be smoking at the counter..in college, students smoked in class...even in doctors offices you had to sit in a haze of smoke.
When I was working retail, we used to have customers who'd smoke stinky cigars at the counter and butt them out on the floor of the store. When I was out of work and had to go to UIC, you could hardly see the other side of the room because every second person was smoking. And you had no choice but to go there if you wanted unemployment insurance. I used to think how horrible it must have been for pregnant women or people with health problems to be forced to sit in that haze of smoke for 3 hours.

I'm glad a smoking ban has been instituted now. The only thing that bothers me now is how disguntingly dirty and inconsiderate smokers still insist on being...throwing their used butts outside the doors of all the establishments and blowing smoke in peoples faces as they walk by them at the front doors.


Oh, I understand what you are saying and I'm not saying it's not better for everyone, but don't you think it should be up to the owners of these establishments to decide how they want to run their businesses? If they allow smoking or smoking in certain areas, don't you think if smoking bothers anyone, they can decide for themselves whether or not to partonize that establishment. I agree inside government buildings and public buildings smoking should be banned. I do not agree that privately owned businesses should be banned. It's just another example of a minority controlling the majority and something else for the government to waste our money and police. With every law preventing something also requires another department to police and enforce it. The government continues to grow and our rights slowly disappear. It's ridiculous.

Here the smoking ban was passed only because of trickery. If you were for the ban you had to vote "No". If you were against the ban, you voted "Yes". People thought they were voting against the ban were actually voting for it. This is fact!

I quit smoking many years ago so the ban did not effect me, but it bothers me knowing the government is taking away more freedom of it's people. Small, yes, but still we lost a little bit of our freedom. How much freedom are you willing to give up to breath a little easier or to feel a little bit safer? What the next freedom are you willing to give up in the name of pleasing the minority? Eating fatty foods? Driving SUVs? Were leather? Hunting & fishing? What?
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11/28/2007 6:04 am
and for my next trick im going to show you how all this ties into the global warming argument.

the government and peopple who want to get elceted create these hot button issues then the media picks up on them and rams them down our throats until were just scared enough not to watch our rights and our money slip away, 10 years ago it was smoking and D.A.R.E ,40 years ago it was a russian icmb, yesterday it was terrorism and global warming, in an hour its going to be health care and schools. i personally dont believe there was going to be another terror attack after 9/11 on U.S. soil. i didnt the math on that little terror plot, $200,000 per man x 20 men= $4,000,000. finding 20 more men who would go to the U.S. and not try to become americans is not going to be easy even when god is concerned. but thats my personal opinion. but we now have black laws ineffect (the government can get sealed arrest warrents) the fisa courts are back in sesseion and now the nsa and cia have presidental clearence to operate on american soil.

so how does all this tie into global warming?? well al gore didnt mention it when he ran for president, so what does that say? that says to me that this is a tactic used to pull people aged 18 to 40 to the far left to try and win over votes through b.s. just like the terrorism scares and the christian rights campaign to bring god back to public light (i mean this form the highly visible presidental coattails point of view) are an effort to bring casual voters into the far right through fear of both bin laden and god. (no offense to looney here id be a republican if theyd find some one who wasnt a moron. i did a lot of reading and if they went back to a goldwater style theyd have my vote).
They say the END is near, but I'm Tired of waiting.
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looneytunes
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11/29/2007 5:33 pm
Originally Posted by: BrokenJera i personally dont believe there was going to be another terror attack after 9/11 on U.S. soil. i didnt the math on that little terror plot, $200,000 per man x 20 men= $4,000,000. finding 20 more men who would go to the U.S. and not try to become americans is not going to be easy even when god is concerned. but thats my personal opinion.


Did you expect the first one? I am not trying to spread fear, but it will happen again and it will put the US back into the Stone Age. You can bet on it! Why do you think the price of gas is so high? Shortage of oil? No! High cost of refining? No! To finance the war it Iraq, terror in the world, and to destroy the US. Yes!
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