They're probably my favourite out of the metalcore bands (I don't count Lamb of God, I have no idea why they're lumped into that category). They look pretty damn good live, and Howard has some jaw-dropping vocal moments, even if he does overuse the high-pitched screams. They can play their instruments very well, too. I think they're pretty hit-and-miss in the songwriting department, but when they do hit - "When Darkness Falls", "Rose of Sharyn", "End of Heartache" - they do a great job. I haven't heard anything from their latest album, though. I would like to go and see them live, but there'd probably be too many scenesters. :(