yep, no argument from me. The England football team are a mystery to science - they manage to suck and blow at the same time.... :eek:

I've no idea why they are so poor... you're right though - we don't deserve to qualify, and at the moment I hope we don't. At least then I'll be spared the pain of watching.

On a final unrealted note, I've no idea what Israel are doing playing a European cup qualifier anyway... not very european are they?

And, congrats to Croatia for another good result...