Originally Posted by: renIn fairness, I think it may be that Kev was saying that personal beliefs are exactly that - personal. There is no need to preach whether you are religious, agnostic or a full on atheist. Whatever your position, you're not going to convert anyone to it...
On men of the cloth and tendancies toward small children - it would be fair to assume that those with an unhealthy interest in children would be drawn to living lives where they are exposed to that which they crave. Church = position of trust and choir boys, School = position of trust and hundreds of potential victims - just two examples...
It doesn't mean by any means that all preachers (or whatever you wanna call them) are paedophiles, but it's probably more likely statistically to find a school teacher who likes little boys than it is to find a old folks home nurse who does...
Maybe some of us go further than those on the other side of the argument would like when making our point, but as we know it's an emotive subject.
I think you all know I don't believe in 'God'. I have no quarrel with other people believing in whatever, but I do feel that my right to disbelieve is not respected to the extent that religious people would have me respect their views.
What if your talking about religion at all is as offensive to me as Kev's views are to you? Are you going to not think it? Will you think it but not express it?
Excellently put.
And that is my point.. it's just as offensive to me to have to listen to delusional people blatantly discussing a topic about some non-existent alien life form called god as is is for me to tell you that I don't believe in that crap.
The trouble with religion is perfectly represented in what's just happened in this conversation. An argument has broken out. Over what??
Something that nobody on Earth can prove actually exists.
All through history this is the kind of thing that religion has caused... fights and arguments.
There's no end to this because there is no possible way for you to actually prove to me that God exists. You know it and I know it.
That's the truth and you can't change it no matter what you say or believe in.