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12/30/2006 11:25 pm
What do you guys think about it? I don't lnow honestly. I approve of the death penelty and everything but I think this was a sensitive case and I just don't see what good could can come from it.

I have a link to a pretty cheap vid of the execution but I ain't posting it here. I will divulge it by pm to people here I know.
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12/30/2006 11:34 pm
That's a tough call.

IF he was executed for his crimes against humanity i.e. the wholesale slaughter of his own countrymen, then he got what was coming. If, and this makes me nervous and a bit queasy to think about, he was executed due to American influence over political nonsense...then it was clearly wrong.

I don't know. Seriously. I just don't know.
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12/30/2006 11:36 pm
Though I do agree with the execution primarliy, I think lynching is quite medieval. Isnt there a better way of getting rid of someone without humiliation? Nothing really good came out of his death because if anything, it has sparked more hatred and belligerence towards the western world.
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12/31/2006 1:21 am
Originally Posted by: AkiraHanging Saddam doesn't solve anything in the middle east.


I don't think the execution was designed as an end-all or solution to anything that's going on in the middle east.... It's simply a sentence of justice. If anything it will inflame the situation. It was more about serving justice than trying to end a conflict.
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12/31/2006 2:17 am
ITs funny that at the momment, more people hate Bush right now than Saddam (well, before he was hung.) I think the death sentence was unecessary nd that he deserved a fair trial.

Btw, I saw the full video (camcorder version) as well Marcos.
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12/31/2006 2:35 am
Maybe I am naieve or just don't fully understand but it seems to me that most of the Iraqi people were scared of Saddam, And with good reason. Most are probably glad that he is dead and it is the radical loyalists that are going to use the execution to spread hatred of the western world even though it was an Iraqi court with an Iraqi judge and an Iraqi jury that tried,convicted and sentenced him.
Personally I don't think we (the U.S.) should have even been in Iraq in the first place but thats a whole different topic.
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12/31/2006 2:37 am
Originally Posted by: elklanderccI think the death sentence was unecessary nd that he deserved a fair trial.



He did have a trial... I can't see how he deserved anything less than to die........ Anyone that uses biological warfare against their own countrymen doesn't deserve to have the priveledge of life. I think a lot of peoples judgement on Sadaam has been clouded by their personal feelings about Bush and the US's position in the middle east...

Either way... if the trial had drug out over 10 years... it still would have ended with Sadaam being executed and rightfully so. Of course, arguing whether or not death is an acceptable punishment for anyone is an entirely different story... I'm a believer in "take a life, give your life"... but whatever... in all honesty... I don't really care. I'd rather just live my own life than worry about whether or not the actions of others are right...
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12/31/2006 3:37 am
Originally Posted by: aschlemanHe did have a trial... I can't see how he deserved anything less than to die........ Anyone that uses biological warfare against their own countrymen doesn't deserve to have the priveledge of life. I think a lot of peoples judgement on Sadaam has been clouded by their personal feelings about Bush and the US's position in the middle east...

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12/31/2006 3:48 am
he was supposed to use those wmd's we gave him against Iran dammit...not his political/religious opponents :rolleyes:
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12/31/2006 5:08 am
Well, I thought his last album sucked, so he deserved to be hanged... the bastard.
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12/31/2006 6:01 am
At first, I was totally indifferent to the whole thing. Then I heard about how he has gassed entire villages, and I thought "Wow, what an asshole." I think he deserved to die.

That said, Akira's right. It's not gonna solve anything. And it would be inaccurate to say justice has been served. But it's a step in the right direction. Maybe.
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12/31/2006 6:52 am
Originally Posted by: schmangeWell, I thought his last album sucked, so he deserved to be hanged... the bastard.
yea.... i thought "Smells like Mustard Gas" was too emo.
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12/31/2006 7:08 am
Originally Posted by: z0s0_jpyea.... i thought "Smells like Mustard Gas" was too emo.


yeah..and "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was supposed to be this big explosive hit, and it ended up being a major disappointment.
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12/31/2006 7:42 am
Originally Posted by: aschlemanHe did have a trial... I can't see how he deserved anything less than to die........ Anyone that uses biological warfare against their own countrymen doesn't deserve to have the priveledge of life. I think a lot of peoples judgement on Sadaam has been clouded by their personal feelings about Bush and the US's position in the middle east...

Either way... if the trial had drug out over 10 years... it still would have ended with Sadaam being executed and rightfully so. Of course, arguing whether or not death is an acceptable punishment for anyone is an entirely different story... I'm a believer in "take a life, give your life"... but whatever... in all honesty... I don't really care. I'd rather just live my own life than worry about whether or not the actions of others are right...

I just don't think execution for murder is reasonable. When you hear about suicides, its about people who are trying to avoid something whether it be long jail time or they're sick of their life (in other words, they se it as an easy way out.) So killing him was like him taking the easy way out. I think life in prison with Iraqis that he put in prison is a far worse punishment.
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12/31/2006 8:39 am
i agree with hunter in his first post...the american media cant always be trusted...the spins added to newstories before and now..god knows the real truth..i also had mixed feelings about this issue...i felt that maybe he wasn't given a fair trial...maybe it was set up by american politicians? they had to get rid of him...now that they have, i cant wait to see the good that comes out of it in iraq though...

more violence=more troops to be deployed=more unnecessary death

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12/31/2006 9:03 am
Yep, I agree that there are worse fates than death. But he surely deserved it. And I think the trial was plenty fair. He had multiple appeals too. When you're proven guilty (which wouldn't have been all that hard in his case), and had your appeals, the sentence should be carried out. I can only imagine the circus it would've become had he been tried here, or in some international trial. But his ultimate demise was fitting...by the Iraqis themselves. It may very well prove to be an important step for the still relatively new government in gaining the confidence/trust of the people. I would guess that a long series of trials, resulting in just prison would've been seen as weakness by that society. But still, a smaller portion still hold him as a hero and now a martyr. So yeah, in the end, it was something they had to work out on their own, and will have to continue to do so in a broader aspect as well.
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12/31/2006 9:55 am
Originally Posted by: schmangeyeah..and "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was supposed to be this big explosive hit, and it ended up being a major disappointment.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to schmange again.
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12/31/2006 2:14 pm
I think putting him to death, especially on the special day of Eid ul-Adha, a very important day that marks sacrifice and forgiveness and reunion, was just plain stupid
even more stupid when you consider the fact that the Iraqi tribunal consisted of Shiites (the majority in Iraq and Iran) and then knowing that Saddam Hussein was Sunni. Those two groups already don't get along great.

executing his death sentence on this day, was just a provocation to more violence and it made him a martyr to many, he deserved the death sentence, but considering the circumstances I believe life in prison would be more appropriate

hearing comments from Saddam's 'followers' I can only say one thing about it... 'ignorance is a bitch', but then again, who knows the whole truth these days
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12/31/2006 5:38 pm
At least we all know Saddam can really do those dive bomb antics. (pun intended)

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12/31/2006 7:38 pm
Originally Posted by: GuitarPsyeven more stupid when you consider the fact that the Iraqi tribunal consisted of Shiites (the majority in Iraq and Iran) and then knowing that Saddam Hussein was Sunni. Those two groups already don't get along great.

Especially when you consider all the Shiites Saddam killed.....

I kind of agree with elklander, though. Death does seem like a pretty light sentence for a guy who killed as many people as Saddam Hussein. A more fitting sentence might have been to stick him in a room and gas him. Not to death, just to the point of physical deterioration. And then maybe throw in some old-fashioned torture for good measure.

(I really disagree with torture, but I think in instances of mass, mass, mass murderers, exceptions can be made.)
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