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garbots
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garbots
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08/06/2006 10:57 am
i've been playing guitar for ages, but 'till now im still confused the difference between modes and scale. i know some of the scales but i dont know how to apply them to other key! there are some guitar lesson videos ive seen, some of them are showed how used in each key but when they changed the key, some patterns stay's the same but some are not. just like in A natural minor, they got the same patterns w/ E natural minor. but what makes me confused is that E natural minor got a pattern of E-F#-G-A-B-C-D-E, where as the A natural minor got a pattern of A-B-C-D-E-F-G-a. so pls anyone out there could help me filling out my confuseness or anyone who can correct me if im wrong! thanks.
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Fret spider
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08/06/2006 12:29 pm
ok modes are basically the same scale but with a different emphasis. for instance.

c ionion has notes c d e f g a b (this is the standard c majour scale)
b dorian has notes d e f g a b c.

this continues till each o the seven notes was the first note of the scale.

if u play throught the scales u will hear they are different. now u might ask arnt c ionion and d dorian and the other relative modes all the same. well no cos te notes have different importances in each mode. but how is this emphasis on certain notes created u ask. well it is created in severall ways. the most common is returnin to the root often. if u are playin th d note a lot it will sound like d dorian. there are many other ways too.

as u say sometimes the key will change but not the notes. for example if the song goes from c ionion to d dorian, all the notes will be the same. whereass sometimes if the key changes from c ionion to f dorian the notes wll be different.

so how does this impact on your playing? well u should use the root of the key u are in a lot, like do a run and end on the root. so if u change from c ionion to d dorian the c note should be played a lot at first and then the d one afterwards. this is just the basic stuff.

sometimes a progression will be played, and it will not be clear from the progression if it is in one mode and key or the other. eg it contains too few of the notes to determine wether it is in either. in these cases u could play twoo diferent scales over the key, and it will give u a different feel to the sound, as your lead playing will determined what key it is in.

hopes this helps
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08/06/2006 12:30 pm
this should be moved to theory section by the way
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08/12/2006 1:00 am
Not much diffrence really. Scales do not have a root note or tonic untill you chose which note you want to start from. When a note from the scale has been picked for a starting point, ( the primary, or tonic ) then the scale becomes a mode. Thats the best I can explain it.
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