I really didn't like them live either. Then again, it was right after Ozzy when they played and no matter who you are that's a tough act to follow. I dunno how it works where you seen them but at the Journal Pavilion in Albuquerque it was outdoors in the New Mexico heat and everyone had to walk up to a different area to get to the main stage so you figure 15,000-20,000 people were up walking around during thier whole set. Even by the time they were done i don't think half the people were situated. So under all those circumstances they never really had a chance.