country music modes


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07/24/2006 4:03 pm
I believe someone wrote an article on this website that explained what modes were used most for country music and other kinds of music. Does anyone know where that article is, or could someone tell me what they are? Thank you much!!
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07/24/2006 4:10 pm
far as i know they just use the ionion

with chromatic notes and wat not

heres an earlier thread

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19452
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07/24/2006 11:19 pm
http://lessons.mikedodge.com

Read the Advanced Pentatonics Tutorial. There's 50 lessons with audio, tab, explanations, and diagrams.

It'll show you around the "country" concept pretty good.
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07/25/2006 8:37 am
The 'country' scale I was taught years ago was just a major pentatonic with the flattened fifths added...

Not being a country player, I never explored it.... but yeah, as far as I know it's essentially major (ionian)....

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07/25/2006 10:52 am
Originally Posted by: zreynoldspThe 'country' scale I was taught years ago was just a major pentatonic with the flattened fifths added...

Not being a country player, I never explored it.... but yeah, as far as I know it's essentially major (ionian)....

ZRP


A Major Pentatonic with a b5 added would more like a Lydian scale without the M7.

Maybe you mean it was called the "major jazz" scale by someone. Maybe someone based that off the Lydian Chromatic concept? Who knows.

I could see a Mixolydian scale with a b5 maybe being called a country scale.

Just read my tutorial and you can take all the names out of the equation. Because once you super impose a couple of basic scales, you end up with so many scales in one there's no need to really distinguish between them any more. It's all sounds, and it's all some sound a lot of people spend years trying to find, and trying to use for themselves.
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07/25/2006 10:53 am
Originally Posted by: zreynoldspThe 'country' scale I was taught years ago was just a major pentatonic with the flattened fifths added...

Not being a country player, I never explored it.... but yeah, as far as I know it's essentially major (ionian)....

ZRP


A Major Pentatonic with a b5 added would more like a Lydian scale without the M7.

Maybe you mean it was called the "major jazz" scale by someone. Maybe someone based that off the Lydian Chromatic concept? Who knows.

I could see a Mixolydian scale with a b5 maybe being called a country scale.

Just read my tutorial and you can take all the names out of the equation. Because once you super impose a couple of basic scales, you end up with so many scales in one there's no need to really distinguish between them any more. It's all sounds, and it's all some sound a lot of people spend years trying to find, and trying to use for themselves.

They'll help your rock playing, you jazz, playing, your country playing, etc...again, once you understand how to use all those notes...there's hardly any style of music that doesn't use those notes.
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07/25/2006 11:30 am
nope.... my hearing isn't that bad, that's definitely what I was taught as a country scale - as for accuracy of the teacher, who can say... :eek:

As fretspider said, country players seem to use major pents with added chromatics for passing notes - mostly fifths and flattened thirds by the looks of it.

Gennation, when you recommend that people read your tutorial, could you be more specific as regards the topic in discussion? It's a very comprehensive piece of work, but if you could give a lesson number that relates it would make it easier to navigate.

Good tutorial on Pents though.... I doff my cap... :D

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07/25/2006 1:52 pm
Originally Posted by: zreynoldspnope.... my hearing isn't that bad, that's definitely what I was taught as a country scale - as for accuracy of the teacher, who can say... :eek:

As fretspider said, country players seem to use major pents with added chromatics for passing notes - mostly fifths and flattened thirds by the looks of it.

Gennation, when you recommend that people read your tutorial, could you be more specific as regards the topic in discussion? It's a very comprehensive piece of work, but if you could give a lesson number that relates it would make it easier to navigate.

Good tutorial on Pents though.... I doff my cap... :D


Well, first off the Introduction is the key to the whole tutorial. It's the searching that EVERYONE goes through when they take the bits and pieces they are taught, then they try and figure out how to make music with them, come up with their own ideas, make it easier to emulate other guitarist/styles, etc...

it's the plight we all go through.

It's a common story, but it gives answers.

But one of the great answers to the puzzle is not learning more "scales" etc...it's utlizing the tools you have in front of you, building on what you already know as opposed to dropping everything and relearning it, the idea that less is more and in the case of the tutorials...it answers all of these question...and it pertains to almost all music.

So, if I point you to a couple of lessons...you miss the intro and you miss the fact that with this idea you can utilize it for MANY different styles...IOW, it brings the music.

Bit's and pieces is not what the tutorial is about, it's not a Hotlicks tape. It's a comprehensive approach to taking a few common tools and learning how to use them as opposed to learning a bunch of licks out of a scale then needed to go find "some other" scale because you're board...or uninspired.

This idea has kept me out of a rut for decades...IOW, with it, don't get into ruts. I don't get bored or uninspired...the reason why?...I can create music with it instead of fly-by-night "licks".

Reading the whole thing is the key. You'll see examples of it used in Rock, Blues, Jazz, Fusion, Country, Rockabilly, etc...

Someone spending some serious time with them can incorporate the ideas over night...and it will give them a whole new prespective of looking at the fretboard.

It all boils down to 12-notes, and how to use them.

Sometmes I think I named the tutorial wrongly since it works you into using a Chromatic scale. But, it's and advanced look at using those tiny Pentatonic scale, that everyone knows, as a vehicle to get there. You don't really need to learn much more than you know...and I haven't found anyone who's put it together like this yet. Not that people don't use these things, it's just that it's my own "simple" approach to teaching it.
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