firstly axemaster i decided to test how much of the diatonic shape i could remeber, i got 4 out of the five caged shapes write first time and the remaining one right in a few minuets, so yes i pretty much know the entire diatonic scale up the entire neck. yes i do also know each seventh chord for each note in the diatonic scale, and yes i am also aware most song contain only the diatonic notes. yes i stilll have work to do, memorising which note of eache scale is the root 2nd third etc of each mode, but i am getting there. bearing in mind all of this i dont see why i cant be interested in other scales, stepping a bit outside the norm. i know i have to still work on the diatonic, but only learning one thing at a time i find is boaring.

to jullian, thanks a lot for the reply i am understanding what your saying and its great, any other infomation or examples would be apreciated.