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05/31/2006 4:30 pm
I think it can all be summed up by saying...

Van Halen is a more technical player than Angus...

Angus arguably has better "artistry"...

Batio is boring to listen to...

Rusty Cooley owns Bation...

Steve Vai owns all...

The Hetfield/Hammett duo WERE amazing...

Ace Freehly shouldn't be in this conversation...

The opinion that Angus is the greatest guitar player of all time is proposterous... Only a closed minded, die hard ACDC FANATIC would think that...

And my closing thoughts about the topic... It doesn't even matter. I don't listen to Van Halen or ACDC.... But I'd rather listen to ACDC over Van Halen any day of the week... and twice on Sunday. People have different opinions about what music is, and should be... and different tastes.
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05/31/2006 5:07 pm
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06/05/2006 11:14 pm
Originally Posted by: aschlemanI think it can all be summed up by saying...

Van Halen is a more technical player than Angus...

Angus arguably has better "artistry"...

Batio is boring to listen to...

Rusty Cooley owns Bation...

Steve Vai owns all...

The Hetfield/Hammett duo WERE amazing...

Ace Freehly shouldn't be in this conversation...

The opinion that Angus is the greatest guitar player of all time is proposterous... Only a closed minded, die hard ACDC FANATIC would think that...

And my closing thoughts about the topic... It doesn't even matter. I don't listen to Van Halen or ACDC.... But I'd rather listen to ACDC over Van Halen any day of the week... and twice on Sunday. People have different opinions about what music is, and should be... and different tastes.



i have to agree with some of it!

vai, batio, et al are far more technical players but hmmm its so boring to listen to.
I walked out of a vai gig recently after having to endure 2 minutes of different feedback!

if being is better player is all about 20 notes per second then vai wins
but angus has great feel, evh also has great feel even though both players constantly repeat about 10 or 15 licks each!
vai and batio play technical stuff because they can.

the metallca guy though well they just rock!

rusty is pretty cool to when he's being himself

ace freakly he plays ok.

paul gilbert is pretty cool to but has limited appeal like (lesser so than) vai and batio.
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06/06/2006 1:13 am
Originally Posted by: raven3d
I walked out of a vai gig recently after having to endure 2 minutes of different feedback!


can we go back in time and exchange lives at the time of the gig?
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06/06/2006 3:34 pm
Steve Vai plays feedback for minutes at a time? I guess now I can say he's an inspiration to me.
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06/06/2006 4:37 pm
To really get an idea of what Angus can do Solo either get the sound track to Maxumun Overdrive or watch the movie.

You here alot of solo guitar on the soundtrack and it is all Angus (he did this before Clapton did Letal Weapon movies).

Really Bluesy and surprisingly "different" to what you are used to hearing when he is with the band.
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06/06/2006 4:51 pm
I think what some of you guys are missing out on, because of your age.. is the reaction we had the first time we heard Van Halen.
Think of it this way... the best guitarists we'd heard before Van Halen's first album were guys like Ritchie Blackmore, Ted Nugent, the very first Rush albums. The only songs a lot of us knew were Smoke on the Water, Tush, Wang Dang Sweet Poontang... and that was it. The fastest guitar player around was either Richie Blackmore or Ted Nugent and the only famous guys were Hendrix or maybe BB King. All other guitar players were average guys who did leads for Bowie or Pink Floyd.

Suddenly, you're at a friends house and he throws on the first Van Halen album for the very first time and plays Eruption.
Like..... my jaw literally dropped and the bunch of us were stunned...cause we'd never heard anything like that before. Not only the fast tapping (which we had no idea how he was doing it), but how clean his tone and playing was, how exact he was in playing chords and how smooth his leads sounded.
There was absolutely nobody else like him and the first thing all of us did was buy the first album and spend hours playing it at 16rpm trying to figure out how he did it. Some of us spend years learning that first album and learning the techniques he used... all without the benefit of tabs or music books.

Just a little history to explain why some of us will always consider Eddie to be the best. He totally turned guitar playing around and was the major influence to a lot of people after that.
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06/06/2006 4:54 pm
how can one fail doing riffs over the chords a-c-d-g-e....angus does quite a bit considering what he works with......eddie is an innovator and a drunk a-hole and p-whipped. angus is just a killer rock riffer. i like the latter for some reason more :rolleyes:
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06/09/2006 5:04 pm
Eddie Van Halen All The Way!!!!
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06/09/2006 6:27 pm
Originally Posted by: schmangeI think what some of you guys are missing out on, because of your age.. is the reaction we had the first time we heard Van Halen.
Think of it this way... the best guitarists we'd heard before Van Halen's first album were guys like Ritchie Blackmore, Ted Nugent, the very first Rush albums. The only songs a lot of us knew were Smoke on the Water, Tush, Wang Dang Sweet Poontang... and that was it. The fastest guitar player around was either Richie Blackmore or Ted Nugent and the only famous guys were Hendrix or maybe BB King. All other guitar players were average guys who did leads for Bowie or Pink Floyd.

Suddenly, you're at a friends house and he throws on the first Van Halen album for the very first time and plays Eruption.
Like..... my jaw literally dropped and the bunch of us were stunned...cause we'd never heard anything like that before. Not only the fast tapping (which we had no idea how he was doing it), but how clean his tone and playing was, how exact he was in playing chords and how smooth his leads sounded.
There was absolutely nobody else like him and the first thing all of us did was buy the first album and spend hours playing it at 16rpm trying to figure out how he did it. Some of us spend years learning that first album and learning the techniques he used... all without the benefit of tabs or music books.

Just a little history to explain why some of us will always consider Eddie to be the best. He totally turned guitar playing around and was the major influence to a lot of people after that.


S,

I have to disagree.

Johnny Winter, Jimmy Page, Santana on the speed part.

But I agree with EVh turnign the "guitar world" upside down.

Basically, he made non-guitar players go -- quote " WTF?!?!?!" :D

So I beleive he would be considered more of a guitar pioneer than Angus.
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06/09/2006 7:20 pm
Originally Posted by: jimmy_kwtx
Johnny Winter, Jimmy Page, Santana on the speed part.


Don't forget John McLaughlin and Frank Marino. But even so, none of these guys played radio-friendly music with as much flair and panache as Eddie. I think that's one of the reasons why Eddie is the most highly lauded as an innovator - he had the best exposure, and his music appealed to a much broader audience than any of the others'.
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06/09/2006 7:22 pm
Familiar with Mc but -- sad to say not with Frank Marino.

I'll look him up.

Thnx
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06/09/2006 7:32 pm
Frank Marino and guys like that I think we always considered to be 'fringe' players.... guys who were really good, but you could lump them in with a dozen other players who were really good but nothing that made you go "Wow!!".
Like, Ted Nugent was impressive, Pat Travers, Alex Lifeson etc.....
... they were all good players, but they didn't make you sit there with your jaw open the way that Van Halen did.

There was just something about that first album that made you stop and do a double take.... you'd listen to it and go "holy crap... how is he doing that??"
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