I understand that part of it. I have done that, it was one of the first things i did. Unfortunatly, I feel horribly out of place because it is ALL women that go there. It seems men are more apt to hold thier pain in and not discuss it. The women there were very kind and understanding but somehow I couldn't do what I'm doing here with them. One thing they did tell me to do was build a website for him. http://jupiter.afmu.com/~mrmj It really did help alot. I thank Eric for helping me with the page. I have some names to add but my idiot brother in law got my laptop a virus that made me start from the factory default. Once i get the webpage editor downloaded again I'll get to it.