im confused by this thread. aside from sounding like old men stuck in the 60's with the "i hate hip hop and this new metal stuff!" rant, what do you not get about screaming in metal? its a conveyed emotion, and in alot of instances it sounds alot cooler than if it was sung. if you want fake metal with singing, i guess you can listen to evenesence, but theres still alot of bands that manage to pull off both very well, like opeth, nevermore, a7x, ect. the only kind of **** that really baffles me is gore music, simply because there are usually no lyrics, just a guy doing his best impression of a running sewage system with some repetative drop C riffs and a blastbeat. if someone can explain gore to me, i would be really happy. hah.