Originally Posted by: Blues_ManI wouldn't call that numetal, screamo, punk crap the standard of tone today. It doesn't take anything to get that tone. (gain all the way up, mid's scooped). I actually believe people have a higher standard for tone today than back then. Now they have 100's of pedals, back then they had a wah. Today they have a hugely, wider selection of amps than what was available then. back then it was, Fender, Marshall, Vox, Ampeg, hiwatt or Laney, that's about it. It just so happens that people back then had better tone because they had great vintage equipment, actually knew how to play the guitar, and actually knew how to work with their gear to get their sound.

i wouldnt pidgeon-hole all those genres of music as "crap". to say that black sabbath's playing skill is better than those of nu-metal bands, or hardcore bands, or punk bands, or whatever, is just a misjudged opinion in my book. just cause some people are stuck listening to cream and cant adjust to the changing face of music doenst mean that the only good musicians lived in the 60's and 70's. (btw, punk started in the late sixties, early seventies, its not like its some kindof radically new genre.)