I beg to differ. black metal is not talentless. though it really depends on what bands you consider black metal. but when I think of black metal, the first (and only) band that enters my mind is cradle of filth. and, I haven't heard a whole lot of their stuff, I own one cd, and I can it's definately not talentless. I mean, so of it is, but then you get these catchy little sections here and there. I think the lyrics are a bit lacking, and sure singing about satan and midian, and cthulu is appealing to these wanna-be goths, but it's just a bit stupid in my opinion. anyways, they do have quite a bit of talent in their music, though it isn't always in the guitar solos, it's more in how the song is arranged and put together, how it's played, and how the band as a whole works together to get the message out loud and clear, even if the message is kinda stupid.