Set up problem??


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01/15/2006 2:50 am
Something weird is happening with my ESP. On the high E string the D, D# and E (frets 22, 23, 24) all sound identical. Up until 3 days ago you could here the different notes.

Intonation is good, open and freted at the 12th fret both look good on the tuner and sound right.

The neck is stright, the frets are not worn and the strings are only 1 month old.

I have been setting up my basses and guitars my self for a while but I can not figure out what may be happening.

Anyone know or have an idea what might be going on?

Thanks
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01/15/2006 3:13 am
Sounds like either one of your frets is too high or you have the bridge set too low.
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01/15/2006 4:48 am
Originally Posted by: schmangeSounds like either one of your frets is too high or you have the bridge set too low.


I thought it might be the bridge but I have had it at the same hight for the last 2months. I even raised it some yesterday to try and fix the problem but to no avail. I will try and move it higher again but that will kinda suck since I like the action extreamly low. I just find it weird that it just recently started to do this.

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01/15/2006 5:33 am
I think what Schmage is gettin at is that no matter where you hold it, the string is striking the 24th fret. This can only happen if your action is too low or you may even need a neck adjustment. You could also crown your frets, kinda like sanding them down and reshaping them. but that's better left to a pro.
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01/15/2006 10:22 am
I say if you got it take a quarter or half a turn on the right side bridge adjustment screw to raise it just enough. Then check the intonation of your guitar.
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01/15/2006 3:59 pm
could the neck have bowed and the truss needs adjusting?
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01/15/2006 6:17 pm
Ok what has happened is that your guitars wood has dried out with it being winter (having your houses heating on dries the air out). This has caused it to shrink which has lowered the action and or altered the bow of the neck.

You need to re-set up the guitar (raising the action and examining the neck bow regulated by the trus rod) to fix the problem.

It doesn't sound like you need to adjust the intonation but re-check it after raising the bridge just to be sure.
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01/15/2006 7:58 pm
If you decide to adjust your truss rod, be sure to do it in small increments. 1/8th of a turn goes a long way. ;)
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01/16/2006 7:19 am
Originally Posted by: Dr_simonOk what has happened is that your guitars wood has dried out with it being winter (having your houses heating on dries the air out). This has caused it to shrink which has lowered the action and or altered the bow of the neck.

You need to re-set up the guitar (raising the action and examining the neck bow regulated by the trus rod) to fix the problem.

It doesn't sound like you need to adjust the intonation but re-check it after raising the bridge just to be sure.


I was wondering how the weather would affect it. Although we do not use our heater here in SoCal (no need) the temps have been changing somewhat drastically, Friday it was 85 and today it was 48.

It was the trus rod that needed adjustment so a little bit of a tweak and it is all good now. I figured since I just set the thing up a few weeks ago I would not need to adjust the rod, guess I did. duh :o

Thanks for the input all.

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02/06/2006 2:21 am
I like, no love my strings on the lowest possible, but not if they buzz, or mute. That dose me no good, I must raise to kill the muted buzz, and find the notes again. But thats just me, Keep Rockin.
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