Originally Posted by: stacknyTrust me, I wasnt brainwashed, simply too young to understand why I was believing. Did your parents leave alone in a room when you were a kid with a tv and left it on news channels and let you decide what you thought for yourself? Thats a silly assumption to say I was brainwashed because everyones environment somewhat dictates on what they think. [/QUOTE]
The environment someone is brought up in is a form of brainwashing. I grew up with the environment that I grew up in. It's just by chance that I decided to analyze it more and form my own opinion, but there are plenty of people out there that just go by what they were raised under and nothing more. Every time your parents tell you something they believe in with the intention of you sharing the belief it is a form of brainwash. Just to a minor degree.

Originally Posted by: stackny
Yeah, I read what I had wrote and that wasnt what I was trying to say. I meant to say the guidelines the Bible has given us are the ones that are considered moral in todays society...Thou shalt not kill, steal, etc. [/QUOTE]
But if those are the morals it's trying to express then it is corrupt since the church has been known to support war on many occasions as well as adultery.

Originally Posted by: stackny
Youre point? Never tried to pass it off as factual, just giving reasons why I believe what I believe. [/QUOTE]
Actually, I wasn't really getting at one with that. I just figured I'd see what came of it.

Originally Posted by: stackny
Dunno really what youre talking about here......[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by: stackny
The Bible says "love thy neighbor." I see prophecy already taking place today. [/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by: Cryptic Excretions
I read a bible that said "kill thy neibhor." Is that prophecy? Can't say man hasn't been naughty over the years.[/QUOTE]
It was hypothetically speaking. I was merely saying that what prophecy you see taking place can easily be countered by the prophecies others see. Poorly put? I thought so too. Let me try this

In Bible A:
Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt work together. The people of land A and the people of land B will unite.
-World event occurs and those two groups of people end up uniting... or at least considering it-
In Bible B:
Kill, kill, kill. Leave nothing left of them all. The people of land A will kill land B.
-World event occurs and land A trounces land B-
Get it? It was just a hypothetical comment is all saying that it still doesn't amount to anything so long as there are varying views. Let alone when neither one can be proven true.


[QUOTE=stackny]
As I said, the basis of how things of occured cannot be explained scientically, but Biblical occurences such as the Great Flood can explain a multitude of things. Its not like its speaking of events that the Earth shows scientifically could not have occured, because that certainly is not the case.

No, it can't be proven scientifically. So why does everyone go to the lengths to try and prove that it is scientific and possible. A great flood isn't going to craft the world the way it is. Find a diagram showing how the layers of salts, minerals, dirt, coal, etc. in the earth's crust and how they're layered. If there was a great flood in such a short period of time then the layers would not be nearly like they are today. Not without a miracle or a god to completely alter the way the earth formed. And that's a fine beleif, but it's not scientific. So why try and prove that it is? If you believe that god defies science then why try and back him up with science?


[QUOTE=stackny]
All Im saying is you can make sense of Biblical occurences and look at prophecies that are coming true today.

What prophecies? Look at the history of the world. Those prophecies can be applied so many times over and over. And they still don't prove that God exists. Not in any way.


[QUOTE=stackny]
I will :D

Cheers.

[QUOTE=stackny]
Thats not going to happen so I dont have to worry about it.

It was another hypothetical statement. Just try and imagine yourself understanding the atheist perspective. There are people release faith in God because they truly don't believe it exists every bit as much as you believe it does exist. It's not just some big rebellion against everything that others take into their arms. I work with a guy that holds no faith in God because he was born in a different country where the Christian influence was next to non-existant. He grew up away from it and because what he did grow up with does not include God, Abrahamic religions just seem like nonsense to him.

[QUOTE=stackny]
How has God gone against his creation?

[QUOTE=stackny]
Though it might seem God is against you

You tell me?

If man is his creation (which includes 6strngs) and he loves his creation (still including 6strngs) then why would he go against his beloved creation? God's supposed to love us and care for us. Not drown our asses when he decides that we've inevitably pissed him off.