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12/11/2005 7:27 pm
Well, I broke yet another string today. This time high E. They were new Light Elixers that I bought last week.

Okay heres the questions:

I play a lot of heavy music, hard picking, tapping and such. What gauge strings should I buy? I liked the ones I had but the fricken things broke.

Is it possible to put too much tension on your strings? If so, how do I make sure Im not doing that?

What brand?
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12/11/2005 8:40 pm
Elixers are a good brand. It might be your playing style or the rare defect. A little heavier gauge will help if it is your style. Bear in mind a change in string gauge may constitute other changes like intonation and what not.
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12/11/2005 9:06 pm
Originally Posted by: magicninjaElixers are a good brand. It might be your playing style or the rare defect. A little heavier gauge will help if it is your style. Bear in mind a change in string gauge may constitute other changes like intonation and what not.


I aint playin live. Id rather save my money and change my tone a bit than have strings break all the time. It probably is my style, lots of bends and what not. What should I go with...I really liked the tone of the Elixers.
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12/11/2005 9:15 pm
Originally Posted by: stacknyI aint playin live. Id rather save my money and change my tone a bit than have strings break all the time. It probably is my style, lots of bends and what not. What should I go with...I really liked the tone of the Elixers.


Yeah Elixers are great so are Ernie Ball and GHS. If you go heavier make sure to check the intonation.
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12/11/2005 10:55 pm
I really like the GHS Boomers, maybe you should give those a try i think I have the .009s on my guitar
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12/12/2005 2:28 am
i had the same problem with .009's, but later changed to .010 (10-46) and i haven't broken a single string since. I've tried ernie ball, dean markley and a few other, they're the same to me really. I haven't tried elixir yet though.
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12/12/2005 2:39 am
I haven't broken a string while playing in almost 30 years! Mind you, my lightest strings are D'Addario EXL-110's.

Unless there's a sharp edge on your bridge saddles, you must be abusing the hell out of your strings. :eek: You can get sharp attack on your notes without trying to scrape the strings right off the guitar. Spend some time working on your picking technique.
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12/12/2005 2:45 am
I dont THINK Im picking too hard...but I dont really know. I cant work on my technique if I dont think theres anything wrong with it, if you know what Im saying. :confused:

So, when Im asking for string gauge, do you actually say "point O one" or wtf do I say? This is all new to me, and I dont want to make myself look like a total dumb ass in the process. Last time I just asked for light Elixers, no certain gauge, but I have a feeling Im definitely gonna need to go for a heavier gauge.
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12/12/2005 3:36 am
Buddy Guy breaks a string several times during his live sets, but it's a contrived part of the show. He's got a tech at the side of the stage waiting with a freshly-strung axe to swap with him, and you can bet that one of his bridge saddles has a burr on it to cause that string to break. A properly set up guitar will not allow a string to break unless it is being abused beyond all endurance. If you load spider-web electric strings, you can't beat on them like they were massive acoustic strings.

I'll refer you to the >D'Addario< website, because that's what I use, so I can give you some examples.

As I said earlier, my lightest strings are the EXL 110 sets I use on most of my guitars. This set is called Regular Light. If you click on the name, you will load a new page showing details of that particular set. Notice the numbers under the heading "Diameter". This is what is meant by string gauge. Usually in inches. Gauges for this set are listed as:

E: 0.010
B: 0.013
G: 0.017
D: 0.026
A: 0.036
E: 0.046

Often the string gauge is referred to in thousandths of an inch, so 0.010" diameter would be a 10 gauge string. This EXL 110 set can be called a 10 - 46 gauge set.

On my "Brand X" SBG1000, I use a slightly heavier set (11 - 49 gauge) to get richer tone. I tried the EXL 115's (called Blues/Jazz Light) but I found that the 18 gauge plain G string didn't balance well with the rest of the set. The EXL 115W set, with a 21 gauge wound G string works much better to my ears.

Before I installed DiMarzio pickups in my second SBG1000 (The Stocker), I was using the stock pickups with a EJ 21 Jazz Light set of 12 - 52 strings. This gave me killer tone for rhythm chord work, but I don't have the finger strength to do any serious bending with strings that feel like coat-hanger wire. When I installed the DiMarzio Tone Zone and PAF Pro pickups, I dropped down to a set of EXL 110 strings. I now call this axe "The Stalker" because it has a much more insidious tone.

So, if 9 or even 8 :eek: gauge strings are what you want to use, that's up to you. If you break them often, get your guitar checked out and set up. If you still break a lot of strings, you need to adjust your picking technique. No excuses. And unless you can afford to have a tech waiting at the side with backup guitars, breaking strings on stage is definitely not cool!
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12/12/2005 10:23 am
i just ask for "10-46 guitar strings" when i'm buying new strings. I've broken alot of e (.009) strings when i was bending more than a full step up but i don't think your picking technique is the problem, just try a heavier gauge.
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12/12/2005 5:01 pm
Originally Posted by: scarface84i just ask for "10-46 guitar strings" when i'm buying new strings. I've broken alot of e (.009) strings when i was bending more than a full step up but i don't think your picking technique is the problem, just try a heavier gauge.


If a full-step bend was enough to break a string, a severe trem-whammy would pop every string on your axe on the pull-up!

If your strings are breaking, you should have your bridge saddles checked for sharp edges. Tuners are less likely to cause trouble, but it does happen sometimes. Strings usually break at the bridge. I'm assuming you change your strings before they get all rusty.
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12/12/2005 5:34 pm
My first set of strings were on there for quite a while and they rusted a little...Didnt know that it was a problem at the time, just new they were on there still and working. Second set-3 weeks. Third set-1 week. Will Guitar Center check this crap for me and restring it for me?
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12/12/2005 8:26 pm
Originally Posted by: LordathestringsIf a full-step bend was enough to break a string, a severe trem-whammy would pop every string on your axe on the pull-up!

If your strings are breaking, you should have your bridge saddles checked for sharp edges. Tuners are less likely to cause trouble, but it does happen sometimes. Strings usually break at the bridge. I'm assuming you change your strings before they get all rusty.


Actually, i said more than a full step bend, a 1.5 or 2 step bend would sometimes break the (.009 gauge) e-string, but none of the other strings. The bridge is an edge pro III floating tremolo bridge. Anyway, like i said in my first post, i haven't broken a single string since i changed to a heavier gauge.
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12/12/2005 8:47 pm
when i was a teenager i always used 9's, til someone said that might be why they keep breaking so i changed to 10's. these days i'm not sure if it made too much difference (i kept breaking them anyway :rolleyes: ) but because they're thicker you can pick harder, so if it's your picking style, that may help.

where are they usually breaking? is there a pattern, like at the top, bottom etc?
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12/12/2005 9:11 pm
Alright, well I play a ton of different stuff, but I want it to be able to withstand the Metallica, Pantera, and the other harder stuff I play, so what gauge do you recomend? 10-46?
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12/12/2005 11:02 pm
Originally Posted by: stacknyAlright, well I play a ton of different stuff, but I want it to be able to withstand the Metallica, Pantera, and the other harder stuff I play, so what gauge do you recomend? 10-46?


James and kirk use (or atleast used ) 10-46 strings. As for pantera i dunno, because some of the songs are tuned down 1.5 step, you might need thicker strings if you're gonna tune down that much.
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12/13/2005 12:32 am
Originally Posted by: scarface84James and kirk use (or atleast used ) 10-46 strings. As for pantera i dunno, because some of the songs are tuned down 1.5 step, you might need thicker strings if you're gonna tune down that much.


HA! I happened to be tuning down for the song Floods when it happened. Whats the disadvantage to having strings this thick?
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12/13/2005 12:37 am
if you use thin strings when tuning down more than 1/2 step, they'll feel like rubber bands and If you use thicker strings they won't. It's more difficult to play with thicker strings though. i don't tune down alot, so you'll have to ask someone what thickness u should use for floods, for example.
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12/14/2005 12:48 am
also, you should pre tighten your strings... i think that's what it's called. before playing with a new string you should tighten it more and then tune it back down to the right note.

does anyone know anything i can do about the bridge on a strat? i mean how if i try to tune down i end up having to go back and tune all the strings over again.
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12/14/2005 1:25 pm
Originally Posted by: stacknyAlright, well I play a ton of different stuff, but I want it to be able to withstand the Metallica, Pantera, and the other harder stuff I play, so what gauge do you recomend? 10-46?


i've used 10's for metallica and pantera. you'd be better with 11's for pantera, but then again if you wanna play anything else, go with the 10's. plus if you use 10's you wont struggle as much to play dimebags extreme bend's.

really could be a tech fault though so if there is a pattern to where they are snapping we could help rectify it :)
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