Marijuana Legalization?

Originally Posted by: magicninjaOpinion duly noted and respected but not agreed with. :)

That goes for me too. ;)

Originally Posted by: R. ShackleferdYep, it's addictive in the same sense of your favorite tv show...nicotine (especially), alcohol, caffeine, hell, practically any other substance is more addictive (and harmful) than weed.

Bull shiznit.

Originally Posted by: stacknyBull shiznit.

Why? How do you know?

Originally Posted by: magicninjaYou need will power for anything. Getting up in the morning for some takes will power. :eek:

especially for bud smokers!!!

Originally Posted by: R. ShackleferdYep, it's addictive in the same sense of your favorite tv show...nicotine (especially), alcohol, caffeine, hell, practically any other substance is more addictive (and harmful) than weed.

Hmm, the old soda can pipe eh? I think that's prolly the worst way to smoke it. As far as desperate means go it doesn't compare to a toilet paper roll and some foil :D

i prefer the 'ol toilet paper roll ;)

Originally Posted by: R. ShackleferdThat's too general a statement. Smoking weed more than once a day, I'd agree. However, a smoker of cigarettes smokes at least half a pack, usually more, a day, everyday, without fail. Only the most diehard potheads (prolly harvesters) smoke that much weed. Plus the fact that nicotine is HIGHLY addictive, really ups the harmful factor for me.

Note: I know the line...one joint equals so many cigs, because it's unfiltered.

THE VAPORIZER!!!!!!!! :eek:

Originally Posted by: z0s0_jpTHE VAPORIZER!!!!!!!! :eek:

The 6ft water bong....... :D

Originally Posted by: stacknyBull shiznit.

proof? have any? show me some statistics that say weed is more addictive then any of those.

and iiholly, I thought you were supposed to be a hippie.. that's all hippies do! is sit around, smoke weed, and try and save endangered animals and stuff..

Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrsproof? have any? show me some statistics that say weed is more addictive then any of those.

Just from the 40 something year old weed heads that I talk to who hang out at my uncles house.

Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrsproof? have any? show me some statistics that say weed is more addictive then any of those.

and iiholly, I thought you were supposed to be a hippie.. that's all hippies do! is sit around, smoke weed, and try and save endangered animals and stuff..

you mean they talk about trying to do stuff ;).....ok.....that was mean

Good point, it might not kill people directly...but still i gotta say, it sure isn't helping anyone. What do you think about it?
I live in albuquerque, where are you from?

Originally Posted by: KonaGirl06Good point, it might not kill people directly...but still i gotta say, it sure isn't helping anyone. What do you think about it?
I live in albuquerque, where are you from?

Let me ask you this. When people get drunk they are prone to fighting, when crackheads run out of cash they will rob someone. When was the last time you saw someone smoke a joint and want to fight or rob anybody? I think everyone could benefit from a hit off a hooter. ;)

I'm in Raton.

It ain't gonna make you live longer, no. It just isn't as bad as a lot of people think.

Originally Posted by: iihollyAhem... I was very cranky when I quit. You guys can go ahead and smoke yourselves retarded. Once again I will state this... weed is more harmful then cigarettes. .

But in what way?
It doesn't hurt your brain cells on a permanent basis.
About the only thing more harmful is if you smoke a whole bag to yourself or smoke tons every day. Then you're damaging your lungs.
And it's not addictive. When you run out, you don't have withdrawal symptoms or feel obligated to commit a crime to get more money for some.
The only addictive part of it is that you like smoking and wouldn't mind having some more.
And on a side note, I'd rather smell pot than cigarrette smoke any day.
Especially American cigarrettes. They stink like cigars.

I still find it hard to believe too that when I was in college, we used to smoke in class. Man, things have changed.

As far as cigarrettes go, I quit about 20 years ago. I was coughing all the time and had a tickle in my throat. One night I couldn't get to sleep from coughing so I got up and squashed my brand new pack of smokes into dust and never smoked again. Hell, I used to smoke a pack of Export A's every day. Not only smoke em, but smoke half a cigarrette and stub it out, then relight it so it'd taste stronger.
Now I can't even stand the smell.

Originally Posted by: schmangeBut in what way?
It doesn't hurt your brain cells on a permanent basis.
About the only thing more harmful is if you smoke a whole bag to yourself or smoke tons every day. Then you're damaging your lungs.
And it's not addictive. When you run out, you don't have withdrawal symptoms or feel obligated to commit a crime to get more money for some.
The only addictive part of it is that you like smoking and wouldn't mind having some more.
And on a side note, I'd rather smell pot than cigarrette smoke any day.
Especially American cigarrettes. They stink like cigars.[/QUOTE]
My only real quarrel with anyone that promotes pot is that they seem to forget that people all react differently to things. In my own personal experience, my mental stability does not work well with any mind altering substances. I've had plenty of bad experiences with pot. Others don't have quite as bad of experiences, but I always feel like I've been poked when people say that nothing bad ever comes from pot, because truth be known... all my experiences with it really sucked.

[QUOTE=schmange]
As far as cigarrettes go, I quit about 20 years ago. I was coughing all the time and had a tickle in my throat. One night I couldn't get to sleep from coughing so I got up and squashed my brand new pack of smokes into dust and never smoked again. Hell, I used to smoke a pack of Export A's every day. Not only smoke em, but smoke half a cigarrette and stub it out, then relight it so it'd taste stronger.
Now I can't even stand the smell.

Here's something I can relate to, however. Granted I never went to such an extremity for them, I've smoked my fair share. Oddly enough, now a days I find it hard to believe that I ever smoked.

I guess it's like everything... it's not for everybody.
I tried coke at one point and couldn't understand what people saw in it.
Same thing with alcohol. I can't stand the taste of beer and the only reason I drink is to get a buzz. There's no way I could drink just one beer for the pleasure of tasting it.... or drink beer with food.
I don't get how anybody could become an alcoholic.
After a couple of days of drinking I can't stand to even look at it.
It takes me about a month before I can handle drinking again.

Originally Posted by: magicninjaI think you guys are dead wrong about the pricing. If it were me in Washington this is how I would draw out the bill.

Bill# 0000-000-0000-00

Legislation to repeal the Prohibition of Marijuana.


In regards to Possesion.

It shall be legal to posess on your person or place of residence no more than 1 oz. Marijuana at one time.

The legal age to possess and/or buy Marijuana shall be set at 21 years of age.

It shall be illegal to posess any opened package containing marijuana in a motor vehicle. (Similar to alcohol open container laws)

In regards to taxes.

The federal goverment shall impose a sellers tax of no more than 25% of the manufacterer's standard retail price per retail package.

States will be obliged to create there own taxes.

In regards to marijuana establishments

An establishment wanting to sell marijuana shall obtain a federal purchase license as well as state certification.

A program shall be created to train the employees of these establishments regarding age limits and proper sale of the product.

A limit shall be placed on the amount of such establishments in a given area based on population.

There shall be no more than 1 establishment per 10.000 people in a given state, county, or metropolitan area.

Of course there would be other things to consider like export/import taxes. Interstate trade would be a big thing to consider. What jobs can refuse to hire potheads would be a huge issue as well. I dunno maybe I'm just high. :D
I think for a "pack" of marijuana joints packaged exactly like cigarettes with all taxes and what not should cost no more than $10-$15 American clams.

I should send this to my senator. I quit getting high again for the time being cuz of little Fox. Again I quit like I had never started in the first place. Easy as pie. Weed is not addictive.

as living in the Netherlands, where weed is legalised, it has improved our society a lot, I doubt it will do the same in the US, you can't just legalise weed just because it's not harmfull, it's depends on the people

a nice example, compare the amount of guns in Canada and the US and then compare the deathcount due to guns in both countries, why is it that Canada almost has no deaths due to guns in comparison with the US? ;)

same with alcohol, it's legalised in the US at the age of 21? (I think), I personally find that real funny, alcohol is legalised at the age of 16 here, not that it doesn't cause many problems among youth but that's their responsibility and to legalise something makes it easier to control it, the US is simply too big in my opinion

drivers license legalised at the age of 16, that's like allowing kids to drive a car, insane if you ask me, way too much deaths because of irresponsible driving, it's 18 here, still causing a high deathrate between 18 and 22

what am I trying to say, I have no idea :p just that there is no main solution for something, I've noticed most people from the US are really ignorant and immature (no offence guys) and then to legalise such things is asking for trouble

I sound as if I'm as old as my grandfather, I'm only 22 :rolleyes: (btw I've smoked weed a while, didn't do much for me, beer all the way)

I am extremely wary of anything that can lead to schizophrenia and hallucinatory disorders - which research has conclusively proved dope does. As a result, I don't want to smoke weed myself - I'm screwed up enough already ;) - but I think that perhaps legalising it would be a wise course of action. Perhaps if it was legalised AND appropriately regulated, it would eventually put the underground cannabis trade out of business - and with usage being legal, perhaps there could be more research and regulation for safer usage?

But I agree with you in a way, GuitarPsy - if it's simply legalised WITHOUT any regulation, it will be extremely destructive.

Originally Posted by: jiujitsu_jesusI am extremely wary of anything that can lead to schizophrenia and hallucinatory disorders - which research has conclusively proved dope does.

Haha, you've been doused with misinformation buddy. Don't believe everything your government allows people to tell you.