Marijuana Legalization?

Originally Posted by: elklanderccHa! I can walk next door to my house and choose what kind I want. :p I agree though, I think it should be legalized. The government could tax it and make profit from it. The only problem I have is the idiots who decide to drive when they're gettin stoned and cause accidents, injuries, and death. It should be like in Amsterdam, you smoke it in the shop, wait ill your sober enough, then you can leave.

fair point;but don't you think if it became legalized,the government would whack a hefty vat rate on it?? your usual £10 bag of green would suddenly shoot up to the tune of £25-£30-----------not so good!!!!!!!! :mad: for christs sakes;they make enough ****in' tax off everything else!!!! my opinion? decriminalization is the answer,that way the government can't screw us for more than they already do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by: Incidents HappenInteresting thread, guys!

I am totally for the legalization of marijuana. Every school day I get in my car, turn on some Charlie Parker, and smoke some reefer before school. I have a 4.000 GPA since I've been doing this, (pre-pot I had a 2.6 GPA). Creatively speaking, there is a reason why musicians smoke marijuana!

A new study came out a few days ago that is looking into a link between regenerative properties of marijuana on the brain (through THC, which imitates Anandamide, the euphoria neurotransmitter), and while I can't vouche for that theory yet, It wouldn't completely shock me.

About the "driving while stoned', it's not as much of a hazard as you'd think it would be. If anything, you drive more cautiously while on the drug, as opposed to alcohol (which makes you drive aggressively). There are instances when it's not fun to drive stoned (i.e. snow, rain, etc.), but in clear-weather conditions its' not bad at all. In fact, my car is the only place I smoke pot in, due to the fact that the smoke isn't lost after you exhale (it accumulates with the windows up).

I voted yes. :D

~Incidents

Woah, haven't seen you around in a bit. Where ya been?

Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonWoah, haven't seen you around in a bit. Where ya been?

well... obviously he's been gettin high as the sky! :D

I guess I'll go ahead and contribute my thoughts on the topic.

I don't smoke pot, don't want to be around it, don't like it, not anything. At the same time though, that's just me living my life the way I've chosen. I don't like mind altering substances and am quite able to find satisfaction in sobriety. Others choose differently and that's completely fine by me. Just give all the pot heads what they want let them smoke themselves silly. They'll be happy, the drug dealing industry would suffer, and plenty of money would come inward via taxes so what's the problem? It blows my mind that the government would sit idle and let a perfectly good source of income go to criminals instead of taking action into their own hands and marketting it themselves. It's prohibition all over again.

I also think its unfortunate that so many stereotypes exist with it.It dosn't help that people view those who consume cannabis as "potheads".God forbid someone smokes pot and they arn't a "drug user".

The most insane thing is,cannabis isn't documented as the cause of even one death(and the right-wing loons would love to use that as fodder).

One of the big things for drug war lovers,is that you can't patent a weed.

"Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.

The actual story shows a much different picture. Those who voted on the legal fate of this plant never had the facts, but were dependent on information supplied by those who had a specific agenda to deceive lawmakers. You'll see below that the very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on a documented lie on the floor of the Senate.

You'll also see that the history of marijuana's criminalization is filled with:

* Racism
* Fear
* Protection of Corporate Profits
* Yellow Journalism
* Ignorant, Incompetent, and/or Corrupt Legislators
* Personal Career Advancement and Greed

These are the actual reasons marijuana is illegal."

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Also,the variety of cannabis lends itself very well to medical use.While a variety high in THC or of the sativa kind would give me a panic attack,a plant higher in CBD would counter act it to some degree.To bad I have no control over the finer points of selection...thanks a lot prohibition!

Chuck's right, god forbid someone who smokes a joint not be called a drug user. This really agrivates me since marijuana is an herb, not a drug. People call it a drug 'cause that's what they have been taught. I'm all for legalizing it. I've been a pot smoker since I was eight years old. That's right, 8! I started sneaking it from my parents at that age and it didn't take me long to figure out that a little weed will make you feel better than drinking alcohol and there's no hangover with pot either. At least not for me anyway. :cool:
Legalize it already!

Yep, in the past I've written my congressmen on this topic. They don't have to start immediately selling it at 7-11, but as it is now to be a crime is truly ridiculous. Also, so is this whole "pothead" label applied to everyone. True, as with anything there should be moderation applied, but all kinds of people smoke...people you might not think smoke, do: CEO's, scientists, and guess who???...cops and elected officials.

Originally Posted by: pentaking 1fair point;but don't you think if it became legalized,the government would whack a hefty vat rate on it?? your usual £10 bag of green would suddenly shoot up to the tune of £25-£30-----------not so good!!!!!!!! :mad: for christs sakes;they make enough ****in' tax off everything else!!!! my opinion? decriminalization is the answer,that way the government can't screw us for more than they already do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fair trade to be able to smoke where and when I want.

Yea to whoever corrected my spelling!!! :D

Originally Posted by: magicninjaYea to whoever corrected my spelling!!! :D

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Originally Posted by: bigbudaChuck's right, god forbid someone who smokes a joint not be called a drug user. This really agrivates me since marijuana is an herb, not a drug.

A drug by definition is "A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction."
and my reference page is http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=drug
Alchol is by definition a drug as well, but people get around the loop of being called druggies when drinking for some reason, but when all is broken down it's still shoved into the same group with drugs because of its addictive and mind altering traits.

I'm not attacking people that use pot or alchol or anything, so don't get me wrong. I'm all for whatever makes people happy. I just don't see the point in beating around the bush with euphemisms.

Its simply the stigma of "drug user" in society that perverts cannabis.

Sadly,even the simpsons fell into it quote Marge:"eahhh!Your doing drugs!" and "Promise your kids you wont use drugs anymore".

Here is the full story on that HERE

[QUOTE=Cryptic Excretions][QUOTE=bigbuda]Chuck's right, god forbid someone who smokes a joint not be called a drug user. This really agrivates me since marijuana is an herb, not a drug.

A drug by definition is "A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction."
and my reference page is http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=drug
Alchol is by definition a drug as well, but people get around the loop of being called druggies when drinking for some reason, but when all is broken down it's still shoved into the same group with drugs because of its addictive and mind altering traits.

I'm not attacking people that use pot or alchol or anything, so don't get me wrong. I'm all for whatever makes people happy. I just don't see the point in beating around the bush with euphemisms.

Pot has never been proven to be addictive. The THC affects you alright but it's still an herb..... :cool:

Drugs are man made. Pot grows, you pick it, dry it out and smoke it. That's just how I see it anyway.....

I remember when I was younger my parents kept saying I was 'on' pot because I smoked a joint every once in awhile.
They'd drink several beers a day, but it never came up that they were 'on' alcohol.

Six pages into the thread, we have yet to have anyone establish a real reason why marijuana SHOULD be illegal. Why is marijuana illegal, again?

Oh yeah, a man named Harry J. Anslinger said that the Great Depression was caused by Mexicans coming into america and smoking pot (trying to find work), and the american people ate it up. Marijuana wasn't even illegal (federally) until 1937. Plus, Harry made speeches in southern states (he toured the Bible Belt with his propaganda) saying that unless you want your kids ending up like a black person, you should keep them away from marijuana!

it is Harry J. Anslinger, the guy that said "marijuana makes you crazy!", and when murderers started pleading insanity due to marijuana to escape the deaeth penalty, he retracted the statement in court and replaced it, saying that marijuana is a gateway drug.

Adam corrolla said last night "Remember back in the 70's, and you were like 'Pot is gonna be legal...like thursday!' and here we are, 30 years later in the same spot..."

~Incidents

Originally Posted by: bigbuda[QUOTE=Cryptic Excretions][QUOTE=bigbuda]Chuck's right, god forbid someone who smokes a joint not be called a drug user. This really agrivates me since marijuana is an herb, not a drug.

Pot has never been proven to be addictive. The THC affects you alright but it's still an herb..... :cool:

Drugs are man made. Pot grows, you pick it, dry it out and smoke it. That's just how I see it anyway.....

It said often addictive, not always addictive. It alters your nervous system just like chemical drugs and alchol do. People with drinking problems don't catch phrases like "drug users" or whatever, instead they've coined "alcholics" but the end result is just the same. They're victim to a mind altering substance. I just fail to see why people go to lengths to make things seem so different when the resultsare the same. Smoke/drink/shoot-up/etc = not sober.

Originally Posted by: Cryptic Excretions[QUOTE=bigbuda][QUOTE=Cryptic Excretions]
It said often addictive, not always addictive. It alters your nervous system just like chemical drugs and alchol do. People with drinking problems don't catch phrases like "drug users" or whatever, instead they've coined "alcholics" but the end result is just the same. They're victim to a mind altering substance. I just fail to see why people go to lengths to make things seem so different when the resultsare the same. Smoke/drink/shoot-up/etc = not sober.

Its because of the fact that its active compounds arn't "toxic".You can't "overdose" on cannabis...you would pass out before you could light another joint.

It gets lumped in unfairly with deadly substances that physically destroy lives.

Originally Posted by: Incidents HappenAdam corrolla said last night "Remember back in the 70's, and you were like 'Pot is gonna be legal...like thursday!' and here we are, 30 years later in the same spot..."

~Incidents

ewwwwww Adam Corrolla... Thank God he occasionally brings genuine talent on his show, maybe he won't get cancelled until the NEXT time ratings come out.

anyone seen/heard the late comedian/social comentator Bill Hicks speaking on this topic...he does a great impression of God..."Oh my me, I left ****ing pot everywhere...this may give humans the impression that they're supposed to...use it"

He has some of the most relevant arguments I have heard.
Or anyone heard "Irony of it all" by The Streets? that song hits the nail right on the head.

I guess you guys know where I stand on this argument...

The man/grab ass show...

They make a big deal about toilets and stalls.Just take a friggin piss without looking at other guys!

"we are men guys,so lets go to the bathroom,fart,burp and pretend to like sports.We can talk about sports n' power tools while we pee and then drink it because thats what the beer we drink tastes like"

It reminds me of lifetime for women except with guys.