Originally Posted by: griefwearsgrayonce again the cursing out thing was totally a joke. but, i do like to keep people guessing.

the cabang thing may be a bit rude, but who has time for all this political correctness bs? i dont.

im not saying kurt was totally original. he stole stuff from boston and rem and the beatles as well. every musician does that. when i said he copped frehley i didnt mean i like him. i wasnt trying to defend him. im not a really big kiss fan. but, its well-know that a.f. found evh. and i know for a fact that evh took the tapping from frehley. the only difference is that a.f. used a pick and not his finger.

the key to a good song is a good melody. i agree. although, im noticing some stuff coming out that sounds pretty bad and yet they still got signed. im not big on that music either.

i also agree on the music/love making thing.

bye.

You don't know anything for a fact, and that's a fact.
It was Gene that "discovered" VH, not Ace, and Eddie was allready tapping at that point. I have seen Kiss 4 times on the farewell tour, and have never seen or heard Ace tap. I am 33 years old and was an original KISS Army member...had the lunch pale and everything! lol Bryan May also used a tap technique, but not to the extent of VH, and if you want to get really technical, Jimmy Webster ( a Gretsch rep and fine recording artist who is universaly credited with being the first to do it) was tapping in the 50's, and my old mentor Dave Bunker Sr. (www.bunker-guitars.com) was tapping in the late 50's and in 1961 introduced the Touch Guitar that was only the second stringed instrument to recieve a patent in the U.S., and the first instrument designed soley for tap technique, and the only double neck instrument in the world where you play the two necks simultaneously. Check it out. Nicolo Paganini used tapping on his violin in the 18th and 19th century. Did Ed rip him off too? Also, Emmit Chapman invented the "Stick" in the late 60's, which is a 10 string "touch" instrument, and patented it in the early 70's

Eddie has said more than once that he didn't invent tapping, but he didn't cop it from anyone either as he was as unaware of these players, as you no doubt are...he stumbled on to it after watching Jimmy Page do a series of pull offs. You know it is possible for more than one person to have the same idea with no prior influence to lead them there. But you have to agree that there were a lot of people using there index fingers after Ed. So there :p lol

You're a funny guy Grief...but you don't know as much as you think you do. I hope you take some time to check out the info that I presented here to you, and encourage anyone else to check out these terrific players, and luthiers.

Additional - Jimmy Webster wrote a book called "Touch System for Electric and Amplified Spanish Guitar" that was published in 1952 by the Wm. J. Smith Co., Inc of Ney York, NY.